Posted on 04/16/2009 4:18:15 AM PDT by Technoman
West Valley City » In what might be the most symbolic setback yet for the state's new immigration law, the director of the Utah Highway Patrol says troopers will not be certified as immigration agents.
"We are concerned about traffic safety and also ensuring that all people have a safe and secure environment in Utah," Utah Department of Public Safety Director Lance Davenport said Wednesday at a Latino town hall meeting here. "And that includes you."
(Excerpt) Read more at sltrib.com ...
No wonder you Yanks have problems with illegal aliens. Your Law Enforcement Agencies refuse to enforce immigration laws.
Your Immigration Laws aren’t really laws at all. They’re only Immigration Suggestions. Completely optional, it would seem.
Publicans .. (spit)
the whole story is worth reading.
headline, opener makes it seem like police are conscientious objectors. nothing could be further from the truth.
they will do what required, but not more.
the whole story is worth reading.
headline, opener makes it seem like police are conscientious objectors. nothing could be further from the truth.
they will do what required, but not more.
Troopers won't enforce any laws that they don't want to.
Loons, kooks and outright criminals are running the Senate and House.
Tax cheats, and criminals open run the government agencies that oversee us, the head of DHS openly states that we and returning veterans are a real threat, but when the local police departments decide that they will openly choose which laws that will be enforced, the moon is entering a new and hostile phase.
Not good in America for people like us...
Translation: Giving out tickets brings in a lot more money than enforcing important laws.
> headline, opener makes it seem like police are conscientious objectors. nothing could be further from the truth.
I read the story again, just to make sure I hadn’t missed anything.
The Law Enforcement Agencies had their customary complaint about being under-resourced. And they said they want a relationship with people whereby if they were victims of crime they would come forward.
I still don’t see how it is helpful for Utah to have Law Enforcement refusing to enforce immigration law. There may be an issue of funding, but surely that gets taken up in a separate forum.
So if someone holds a "White town hall meeting" no one would care?
Seems to me that we need to spend our efforts to get control of the borders first. Any submariner will tell you that you must first STOP THE FLOODING before you start to move the water around the boat if you are to save the boat.
You're right ... I read this;
"A bill passed last year by the state Legislature, SB81, will go into effect on July 1, giving police agencies the option of enforcing federal immigration laws."
AND, having a reasonable imagination that can couple with reality, I saw the (union reps?) backroom deal ...
"Look, vote for ____________ and I can make your lives a lot easier and safer"
Sort of like what Soros and zero discussed before, and discuss now .... or rather ... what zero obeys, now.
“their customary complaint about being under-resourced”
in a bureacracy, you don’t do work you don’t have to. they’re angling for more money. they’re saying if you want this done you’ll have to pay for it. This is very standard, whatever the politics. they’re doing what they’re required to do.
leftarded media is playing it like conscientious objection, which it isn’t
If you want the cops to add new functions then you need to hire more cops. The keyboard warriors are in perfect form this A.M.
> in a bureacracy, you don’t do work you don’t have to. they’re angling for more money. they’re saying if you want this done you’ll have to pay for it.
Very true. The Unions have turned that into a Methodology. The call it “Work to Rule.” If you don’t pay for it, it doesn’t get done.
One would have hoped that Law Enforcement meant a little bit more than that: you enforce all of the Law because the Law has a Majesty that demands Respect and requires Enforcement. But, I guess not...(shrugs)
yeah, I agree, but also how would you like it if your boss said he was going to pay you the same, but he wanted you to do more stuff
they should always have been enforcing those laws though. when exactly did they stop, and at who’s request, would be my question
Translation: There's no money in enforcing immigration laws. Traffic fines...er...safety is what we want.
For me I guess it’s a cultural thing that I do not understand this. Living first in Canada and now in New Zealand, the Law is the Law and there’s no harsh division between State law and Federal law: it’s all the Law and it is all there to be enforced.
Even in Canada, Provincial Law is everything that will get you in gaol for two years or less. Everything else is Federal Law.
(That’s a crude way to break it all down, but it is approximately correct).
It would be unthinkable in Canada or in New Zealand for the police to say “sorry, we don’t have to enforce those laws: they’re only Immigration Laws.” They may well defer to the authority of the Immigration department, but if they had a crook in hand who was in violation of Immigration laws, our police would be only too happy to slap him into cuffs while they await the arrival of the Immigration department. It only makes sense!
Utah Department of Public Safety Director Lance Davenport needs “unilaterally terminated from his employment.”
You may not like laws the legislative branch passes. But as a public servant charged with enforcing those laws, you have to do what the law says.
Otherwise, it’s anarchy. Small wonder guns and ammo sales are through the roof, with clowns like this in public office...
Emigration laws are federal laws. A Supreme Court case way back in the 1830's ruled that states could not be compelled to enforce federal law, that was the responsibility for the federal government. To the best of my knowledge that hasn't been overturned. Hence the reason why the Utah bill gives them the 'option' of enforcing it.
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