Posted on 03/31/2009 5:17:17 AM PDT by kellynla
As I was walking through the ammunition aisle at my local Bass Pro Shops, I muttered to the man standing next to me how disappointingly empty the shelves were. Not as bad as last week, he said. I shouldnt have been surprised. Back in February, Cabelas, a publicly-traded outdoor outfitter saw its stock go up 35% in one day when earnings blew away estimates because of very strong sales of firearms and related accessories.
If President Obama has stimulated anything in America, it is demand for guns and ammunition. According to Rich Wyatt, the voluble and intense owner of Gunsmoke -- a firearms training facility just outside Denver -- If I had known it would be this good in the gun business, I might have voted for Obama.
Its not just a couple of stores seeing a run on guns and even more so on ammunition. From local gun shops to WalMart to sporting goods stores, the story is the same: When the store gets a shipment of ammo, particularly .45, 9mm, and .38 handgun ammunition, people come in and they buy it all.
The manager of a local gun shop where Ive been a customer told me that business has doubled since the election. Whereas the typical first time buyer pre-election had generally been a 30- or 40-something male, first time gun buyers now include more younger people, older people, and women than in the past. Theyre buying semi-automatic pistols and shotguns for home defense, as well as concealed weapons. Theres also a strong interest in black guns, military-style assault rifles, both from people who want to buy them because they can as well as others who believe theyll be able to sell them at higher prices someday soon.
Where politics was rarely mentioned during a gun purchase a year ago, the store manager says at least 60% of his customers mention the Obama administration now.
At Rich Wyatts Gunsmoke, We are getting Prius-driving Obama people buying guns because they realize they picked the wrong pony even though they never admit it. Just like my local gun shop, Wyatt has old ladies and young people and liberals buying guns. He says that while there were spikes in gun buying during the Clinton administration, during the Rodney King riots, and even just before Y2K, hes never seen anything remotely on this scale.
A customer I spoke with at Bass Pro Shops (the employees wouldnt speak with me for an article) actually owns a gun shop, but he was buying ammunition there because his wholesaler had run out. His customers are hoarding ammunition and, to a lesser extent, guns. He described a recent spectacle at a gun show where one vendor had a relatively large supply of ammunition and customers were swarming around him buying 50 boxes at a time and not at a bargain price.
At Dicks Sporting Goods, they were almost out of .45 ammunition after having received a shipment just that morning. Not only are people buying as much ammunition as they can find and afford, theyre doing it during the work day rather than taking the chance that it will be gone by the weekend.
As if the message werent clear enough, a sign at a local WalMart said Due to the increased demand from customers for ammunition, our suppliers are increasing production A salesman said that their ammunition supply is now infrequent and unpredictable: We used to get shipments almost every day. Now we only know well have it when we see it. I get at least a half-dozen calls a day asking for ammunition, especially for handguns, and when it arrives, the customers buy everything.
Over at Gunsmoke, Rich Wyatt says Now, its not what the ammo costs; its do you have it?
Much of the demand for ammunition is due to an NRA advertising campaign during election season which described Barack Obamas historical positions on gun issues, including having said that he would support a 500% federal tax on guns and ammunition. And while it is true that Obama has not made many anti-gun statements recently, gun rights expert David Kopel explains clearly that Barack Obama is easily the most anti-gun President in US history.
In his 2004 Senate campaign, Barack Obama said he would like to ban concealed carry permits. Now that Obama is President, Gunsmokes concealed carry courses are selling out class after class (50 people in each) in addition to their 3-day pistol classes, which are already sold out through June.
People are petrified afraid for their rights that Obama is going to attack. And while Obama says he doesnt support banning guns, a 500% tax would effectively be a financial ban on both guns and ammunition. I think the lefts goal is that in 50 or 100 years, there are people who dont even know that they could have bought guns or ammunition.
Colorado is several months behind in processing concealed carry permits because of demand. Last month, it was reported that Florida is buried under a backlog of 95,000 applications for concealed-weapons permits and it needs to hire a lot more people to handle the paperwork. In Georgia, firearm permits were up 79% in 2008 over 2007. In Oklahoma, the number is around 90%. In Ohio, the number of concealed carry licenses issued in the 4th quarter of 2008 was 111% higher than the 4th quarter of 2007.
Wyatts concealed carry classes emphasize the basics of gun use, safety, and the law, but Its Politics 101 as well, trying to make sure people understand not only their rights regarding guns but also the Constitution and their rights and responsibilities as American citizens. He tries to make sure people are conscious of the boiling the frog approach by government to infringing on our rights, and gun rights in particular, just slowly enough that the average person might not notice. Just be prepared, he warns, for the return of government saying Were not banning all guns just these guns. And thats part of the reason that theres so much demand for these guns, which is to say just about every type of gun you can imagine.
Since the election, the shares of gunmaker Smith & Wesson have more than doubled, with competitor Rugers shares up nearly as much. Two weeks ago a large gun and ammunition manufacturer, Olin Corp. raised its earnings guidance, anticipating a record quarterly profit for its Winchester ammunition division. The American public is speaking, and theyre saying in no uncertain terms that they dont believe President Obamas claims to support gun rights since his history says something very different.
Rich Wyatts position is typically none too subtle: Barack Obama is right about one thing. We are clinging to God and our guns, and I defy him to try to take either one from us.
As for me, after a day of thinking about the Obama administration and guns, I bought my local WalMarts last box of .38 caliber ammunition.
It none of your or anyone elses business.
LLS
Do not come near me when the SHTF.
LLS
it is not just people hoarding ammo, there has been a huge spike in gun permit applications, more guns need more ammo
The number of checks has spiked in Massachusetts and nationwide, according to the agency’s National Criminal Investigative Service.
MASSACHUSETTS
July 2008 2,658
Aug. 2008 3,463
Sept. 2008 3,325
Oct. 2008 4,002
Nov. 2008 5,501
Dec. 2008 4,662
Jan. 2009 4,539
Feb. 2009 4,711
NATIONAL
July 2008 891,224
Aug. 2008 956,872
Sept. 2008 973,003
Oct. 2008 1,183,279
Nov. 2008 1,529,635
Dec. 2008 1,523,426
Jan. 2009 1,213,885
Feb. 2009 1,259,078
All the more reason to make friends. I'm currently feeling out my neighbors for their interest. Some are granola-eating, sandal-wearing, tree-hugging hippies who are of no use to society, but others have arsenals, and those are the ones I invite over for BBQs and beer.
Then, I let the conversation take its' course and wait for the opportune time to say the magic word "militia".
Talk about overkill! Lots of good ideas, though. However, I don’t recommend his choice of caching location (on land you don’t control)! Dumb.
You and your client might be interested in this. Even The Travel Channel is talking about the risk of kidnapping overseas. New show there:
My Holiday Hostage Hell
http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/My_Holiday_Hostage_Hell
More than ever, people are traveling abroad looking for the ultimate holiday adventure. But some travelers are putting themselves in danger. Western travelers are seen as easy prey for ruthless criminal gangs. Kidnapping is on the increase; 10 people are taken hostage somewhere in the world every hour. These are the real-life stories of people held hostage under the most extreme circumstances, facing torture, extortion and threats of murder.
The arrogance of liberals on display. People like him get shot after hurricanes. Legally.
I would also expect the internet (civilain access), GPS and a few other technical assisting devices to not be available for use in certain senarios...
So pick your “spots” wisely...And keep the info to yourself...
Deciding who you would tell in the event you are unable to retrieve said device, is kinda tricky...I’ll leave that to each individual how to protect that information and how to reveal that to someone else if that situation occurs...
I wish I could afford to hoard ammo. Have you seen the prices of ammo lately?? I try to pick up a little here and there but if there’s ever a big gun fight. I lose.
Hey everyone, quit looking for free NRA memberships. Having extra members is fine and all that, but what they really need is your money! Pay for your membership like the rest of us do, and donate more if you can.
ping
The CZ-52 looks like a cool weapon. I’m wondering about how I could justify the purchase, though, in high country: the land of high winds, extreme ranges and monster predators. Even from little ol’ SA revolvers, we tend to launch gigantic hunks of flat nosed lead. As for the smaller critters that make holes in the ground (leg-breakers for horses),...at least 300 Win Mag, of course. ;-)
Travis - thanks for the great info. I printed it out and will take it with me to a gun show this weekend. Hopefully I’ll find this model to check out. - OB1
http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/9mm_ammo.html
http://cheaperthandirt.com/
http://gear4hunting.com.auction/sell...asp?user807924
http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php
http://sportsmansguide.com/
http://www.aimsurplus.com/
http://www.ammobank.com/
http://www.ammo-connection.com/
http://www.ammoman.com/
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/671
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...sp?id=cat20837
http://www.dakotaammo.net/
http://www.georgia-arms.com/
http://www.jgsales.com/
http://www.natchezss.com/
http://www.odcmp.com/
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/storefront.pl?ref=hotpig27&pg=26854
http://www.sillc.com/ammunition
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/
http://www.the-armory.com/
http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/index.html
http://www.wideners.com/
https://www.mainemilitary.com/productcart/pc/viewcategories.asp?idCategory=225&pageStyle=H
http://www.botachtactical.com/
http://www.doubletapammo.com/
http://www.midwayusa.com/
http://www.safetyslug.com/
http://www.tds-us.com/
You might check at these sources, if you can’t find
it locally. Bookmark them too!
:-)
aMorePerfectUnion
“When you have to climb to the top of the towns water tower, with a can of paint to defend your sister’s honor...You might be a red-neck.”
Thanks for the reply. Done!
Tip’s dead...
Lemme see if I can shed a tear...
Nope...No joy on squeezing one of those out...
Bump
good way to open a can of SPAM, right?
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