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You and I Can't Buy the Guns Mexican Cartels Own
Gun News Daily ^ | March 1, 2009 | Ralph Weller

Posted on 03/27/2009 8:20:09 PM PDT by upchuck

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Though clearly illegal in the states in most instances, a lot of Mexicans have more firepower in terms of military weapons than we can only dream of owning here.

Clearly written by someone who is unfamiliar with Texas.

21 posted on 03/27/2009 9:39:05 PM PDT by KarinG1 (You're just jealous because the voices don't talk to you.)
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To: o_zarkman44
"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them (America), or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court." U.S. Constitution Article III, Section 3.
22 posted on 03/27/2009 9:39:26 PM PDT by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Don’t worry about the south, we have your back.


23 posted on 03/27/2009 9:40:49 PM PDT by KarinG1 (You're just jealous because the voices don't talk to you.)
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To: upchuck; All

Be sure to see this related article:

Hizbullah, Mexican drug cartels working together

“Hizbullah relies on “the same criminal weapons smugglers, document traffickers and transportation experts as the drug cartels,” said Michael Braun, former administrator and chief of operations at the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA).”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2216458/posts?page=8#8


24 posted on 03/27/2009 9:47:00 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: upchuck

By the way, the Full Auto Ban Amendment to the 1986 “Firearms Owners Protection Act” never REALLY passed! It was just on a voice vote, and the Nays WAY outweighed the Yeas on the Amendment’s adoption ballot! I heard it! Tip O’Neal just PROCLAIMED that it passed, to the GASPS of many in attendence, and the minority Repubs could not challenge him because of the parlimentary rules in effect at the time! HONEST! History!


25 posted on 03/27/2009 9:50:02 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

“...building an AK 47 factory in Venezuela...”

Yeah, nothing like owning the factory to enable one to turn out sterile weapons by the container-ship load.


26 posted on 03/27/2009 9:54:31 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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A lot of you may be too young to remember this (I am as well, but I learnt it in skool) but Texans already whooped the Mexicans once, if we have to we’ll do it again. Remember the Alamo, we do.


27 posted on 03/27/2009 9:55:43 PM PDT by KarinG1 (You're just jealous because the voices don't talk to you.)
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To: upchuck

You mean the drug cartels might be smuggling both drugs AND weapons? I am shocked! Just shocked!


28 posted on 03/27/2009 10:30:03 PM PDT by smokingfrog (When the baker can't make a profit, nobody gets a piece of the pie!)
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To: upchuck
Though clearly illegal in the states in most instances, a lot of Mexicans have more firepower in terms of military weapons than we can only dream of owning here.

Dang, Mexicans are so lucky......

29 posted on 03/27/2009 10:37:24 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: upchuck

Brown, Holder, Obama, Soros, Sardosky are all Globalists and they want US overrun by our own Mandarins as they know the only force that can stop the NWO is the US.

Mexico needs to be cut off at the knees, but GWB was too involved in Globalism himself...


30 posted on 03/27/2009 11:41:57 PM PDT by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: PLMerite
There is hardly a 3rd wold country out there that can't get you all the AK’s you want for 1/3 of the cost in America. Just think if you were Poland with financial problems and you knew a way to sell some surplus military to Mexico. you could buy new from China( or make it yourself), and sell surplus for the same price or more. I wouldn't doubt you could pick up some tanks and a MIG or 2 if you have the bucks. You won't get that from Arizona.
31 posted on 03/27/2009 11:47:21 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: Polarik
I don't know how much they go for in Somalia or any other third world Muslim country, but if you want to buy a semi-auto Kalishnikov here in the states, be prepared to pony up two large.

The media/government spin does not pass even modest scrutiny. We are to believe that Mexican gangs come to U.S. gun stores, pay the retail price, say, $500 for a semi-auto AK or $1200 on up for an AR-15, smuggle thousands of these weapons to Mexico, and then convert many of them to full-auto. And somehow they are also getting illegal grenades and RPGs from American gun stores.

Obviously there is an occassional strawman purchase, where someone buys a gun and sells it to someone who smuggles it to Mexico, but this is not what is arming the drug cartels with many thousands of guns. And why would a drug cartel pay the inflated retail price for a semi-auto American AK when they can get huge quantities, very cheaply, of real, full-auto AK rifles? The government and the mass media are telling blatant lies to the American people. The real gun problem, north of the border, is not American guns being smuggled into Mexico, it is Mexican gangs who illegally come to America, bringing their illegal guns with them.

32 posted on 03/28/2009 1:07:42 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Mondragon Fusil M1908 7x57mm automatic rifle used in
ceremonial activities.

Like those famous Mexican firing squads where they cry
Vive la Revolucion!


33 posted on 03/28/2009 1:11:59 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: Polarik

Full auto AK47 cost around $250 in Somalia.


34 posted on 03/28/2009 1:49:53 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 55... 54... 53...)
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To: LeoWindhorse

There is at least one major arms manufacturer (Imbel) in Brazil and I’d be shocked to hear of any reason why they wouldn’t be able to sell into Mexico.


35 posted on 03/28/2009 2:36:20 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: 2harddrive
By the way, the Full Auto Ban Amendment to the 1986 “Firearms Owners Protection Act” never REALLY passed! It was just on a voice vote, and the Nays WAY outweighed the Yeas on the Amendment’s adoption ballot! I heard it! Tip O’Neal just PROCLAIMED that it passed, to the GASPS of many in attendence, and the minority Repubs could not challenge him because of the parlimentary rules in effect at the time! HONEST! History!

Source of information?

36 posted on 03/28/2009 3:10:56 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: upchuck

I don’t believe a single shred about these weapons coming from the US, not that there isn’t some but not the fully auto stuff, its all political propaganda tools to support misguided agencies that are under an illegal presidents wet dream.

I wish it was possible to BUY BACK these guns from Mexico, thats right, allow Americans to cross the border, buy anything they want and come back home.

Or just do it and don’t say a word.


37 posted on 03/28/2009 3:17:11 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Travis McGee

Really good article here.


38 posted on 03/28/2009 3:18:59 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: upchuck; Joe Brower

Great post.


39 posted on 03/28/2009 5:24:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: AvOrdVet

I saw it several times on national TV news footage, but I no longer remember which network it was. SOMEBODY has the original film, though. That “Amendment” is a HOAX on America.


40 posted on 03/28/2009 6:44:19 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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