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More Functional Non-Coding DNA Found (Darwinist "junk DNA" prediction going down in flames)
CEH ^ | March 12, 2009

Posted on 03/16/2009 8:18:46 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

More Functional Non-Coding DNA Found

March 12, 2009 — Another finding undermines the concept of “junk DNA.” A team of scientists in Massachusetts found over a thousand functional RNA transcripts from intergenic sequences. These RNA transcripts, coming not from genes but from regions earlier thought to be non-functional, take part in diverse functions from stem cell pluripotency to HOX gene developmental processes to cell proliferation...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign; junkdna
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To: allmendream
What creationists need to show to break this link is a highly functional sequence that is not conserved between members of closely related lineages.

But doesn't there have to be a fairly large amount of functional information in DNA that differentiates the macro-level body features of even closely related species? Or do you believe that essentially all DNA within a species group is essentially the same, but with some small mutations in regulatory areas that account for the difference? If so, it seems unlikely that complex macro-level differences can be accounted for by simple DNA differences.

81 posted on 03/17/2009 10:08:29 AM PDT by dan1123 (Liberals sell it as "speech which is hateful" but it's really "speech I hate".)
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To: ElectricStrawberry; itsahoot
“I am never on an anti-religious crusade (heck....been to religious worships more than some that ARE "religious") and only want your religion to be kept out of a science room.....period....it does not belong in a science room.” [excerpt, bold/red emphasis mine]
So you want our religion kept out of the 'science room'?

What about yours?

Several major proponents of Evolution have admitted that it is a religion.

For example, Michael Ruse said that ‘Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion—a full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality.’ and that ‘Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.’

So, do you also want that kept out of the science room?

Personally, I'm all for teaching only testable sciences in public school science classes. (hint: From Goo To You By Way Of The Zoo Evolution isn't testable)
82 posted on 03/17/2009 10:23:37 AM PDT by Fichori (The only bailout I'm interested in is the one where the entire Democrat party leaves the county)
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To: dan1123
The similarity or divergence of DNA is directly related to how recently two separate population have shared a common ancestor.

There is an entire branch of science known as “Phylogenetics” that works with these similarities and differences in DNA.

Most species have the same set of “housekeeping” genes, that perform essential cellular functions. They are very different in widely divergent species, yet perform the same function in all species.

Humans and mice have 99% of the same genes in common. The genes themselves are about 15% different in DNA sequence, but if you find a gene in a mouse you are 99% likely to find that same gene in a human; it will just be 85% different.

Humans and chimps have well over 99% of the same genes in common. The genes themselves are only about 2% different.

83 posted on 03/17/2009 10:26:12 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: editor-surveyor
I really care not who you are; the fact that you are an author of deception is sufficient reason to disregard your utterances, and propaganda. Just because you have a ridgidly held opinion does not make it fact.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

The textbook I cited is a result of thousands of peer-revewed scientific papers. There are THOUSANDS of references. There are pictures for you creationists. All the data had to stand up to rigorous review by others in the field with re-experiment and revision when the data didn't make sense or the descriptions were vague during the review process. Compare this to a book that was written hundreds of years after the events may have happened from spoken stories and then translated into numerous languages (with mistake)to evolve into what it is today. Hey, the Bible evolves!

84 posted on 03/17/2009 10:51:16 AM PDT by Wacka
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To: Fichori

It’s Kornberg, not Kernberg,

Manbearpig got a Peace Prize which is political BS, not a medicine, chemistry, or physics one.

The science ones are for legitimate scientific research.


85 posted on 03/17/2009 10:56:04 AM PDT by Wacka
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To: Wacka
“It’s Kornberg, not Kernberg,” [excerpt]
D'oh! (Even my spell checker knows that!)

“Manbearpig got a Peace Prize which is political BS, not a medicine, chemistry, or physics one.” [excerpt]
Well, according to Al, 'Anthropic Gerbil Swarming' is 'science', not politics.

“The science ones are for legitimate scientific research.” [excerpt]

I call political Brown Noise and Static™ when anyone defends the Goracle or his enablers and promoters.

I mean, hey, he got a Nobel, so he must be right! (Duh, of course its political, just like Evolution)

Sorry, no sale.
86 posted on 03/17/2009 11:13:58 AM PDT by Fichori (The only bailout I'm interested in is the one where the entire Democrat party leaves the county)
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To: Wacka
"The textbook I cited is a result of thousands of peer-revewed scientific papers..."

And to be your 'peers' they would have to share your agenda, which would be the same agenda as the Nobel committee, that gives prizes to terrorists and their comrades, and great 'scientists' like Algore, right?

My case rests on firm bedrock.

87 posted on 03/17/2009 1:06:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
"which leads you to make the absurd statement that DNA is there to prevent evolution."

It has prevented evolution up to now, why would that be an absurd statement?

Had it not prevented evolution, there would be thousands, or even millions of "intermediate" ape -> man stages running around evolving in all directions and colors, and they are not here; not even their remains are here.

Wake up and look around, this is a world where all species are widely separated, and well defined.

88 posted on 03/17/2009 1:18:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: allmendream

Nobody else is buying your obfuscation, why don’t you stop embarrassing your co-idiots?


89 posted on 03/17/2009 1:22:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

Obfuscation?

You said disappeared, now you say you mean off.

Clearly you don’t know what you mean as you are incoherent and absolutely ignorant of the subject.


90 posted on 03/17/2009 1:28:37 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: allmendream

Means the same thing troll!


91 posted on 03/17/2009 1:41:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor
“The light has disappeared” is the same as “the light is off”?

Sorry e-s, but a gene disappearing is not the same as a gene being off.

You said the genes for sulfa resistance had disappeared from bacteria. Now you claim they are merely “off”.

You must really familiarize people with the language you wish to use, as the rest of us here speak English.

Moreover you were wrong. Remain wrong. And as you have no plan on correcting yourself, you will continue to be wrong.

92 posted on 03/17/2009 1:47:51 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: allmendream

You are completely wrong!

The coding genes are only the expression of the underlying controlling information in the “junk DNA” that the evo-nuts so hate. None of the information goes away; it can return in one, or a hundred generations.


93 posted on 03/17/2009 1:58:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: allmendream

PS you are still embarrassing your co-idiots.


94 posted on 03/17/2009 2:00:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Let me just change the subject to some other form of mutation that “proves” macro-evolution has really occurred.... Ummm... I know the moths of the industrial revolution age... Their change of color indicates macro-evolution MUST be true.


95 posted on 03/17/2009 2:19:10 PM PDT by txnuke (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: editor-surveyor

Your brain rests on swiss cheese.
They have no”agenda” except that they print what has been shown to be reproducible.

To show how dumb you are, each Nobel prize is given by a completely different committee. The people awarding Al Bore’s prize is totally different than the ones awarding the chemistry, which is different than the ones awarding te physics, etc.

What is scary is that if you substitute Koran for Bible in creationist posts, you sound just like the islamofascists.

Care to address my statement on the Bible evolves? Some passages in ancient greek say totally different things than the King James version . Which one is right?


96 posted on 03/17/2009 2:35:11 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: editor-surveyor

None of the information goes away?

Then where did the sulfa drug resistance genes go when you claimed they “disappeared”?

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Disappeared is not “off”.

If the genes are simply “off” then all it would take is exposure to sulfa drugs to turn them “on” again. Obviously this is not the case.

So what do you propose is the difference between the 99% of bacteria that die when exposed to an antibiotic and the 1% that survive; if they all had the same genes and only needed to turn them on?

Of course I am hardly expecting a reasoned or insightful or knowledgeable answer from you, probably more insults and accusations of being a troll; it seems all you are intellectually capable of.


97 posted on 03/17/2009 2:36:03 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: allmendream

Please stop the obfuscation.

Everyone here sees what you’re doing. Your shell game of words is confusing only yourself. Don’t you ever get embarrassed?


98 posted on 03/17/2009 3:13:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Wacka
"Care to address my statement on the Bible evolves?"

Yes, nonsense from a deceiver with an evil agenda.

"What is scary is that if you substitute Koran for Bible in creationist posts, you sound just like the islamofascists."

From someone such as yourself that is blinded by hatred of God and his word, garbage like that is no surprise.

Its getting to be the evo's standard replacement for science, which they hate as much as they do God.

99 posted on 03/17/2009 3:20:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

What I am doing? I know what I am doing, it is obvious, I am asking you to explain something that you obviously don’t understand.

No wonder you want to make the discussion about me.


100 posted on 03/17/2009 3:50:48 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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