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1 posted on 03/02/2009 4:17:20 AM PST by Man50D
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God be with him for taking a stand. I fear all who oppose BO will be in prison by 2012.


2 posted on 03/02/2009 4:19:55 AM PST by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation !)
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Once again, the leftists demonstrate that THEY are the ones who are anti-Choice.
5 posted on 03/02/2009 4:25:51 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The Stimulus Package: Preamble to the Democrat's new Declaration of In Dependence)
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The opposite of life is DEATH, not “choice”.


8 posted on 03/02/2009 4:28:10 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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“...that many medical practitioners, including himself, will go to prison before agreeing to engage in medical practices they morally oppose, such as abortion.”

Doctor, how about you refuse to be subject to evil and un american manipulation of the law AND you refuse to go to jail? Thank God George Washington and the fellas’ knew when to show respect for Law and Process and when to pull their hands out of their pockets and say, “No and go to hell, sir”.


10 posted on 03/02/2009 4:34:46 AM PST by TalBlack
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Earlier that same day, the Obama administration had announced it was “reviewing” a Bush administration regulation known as the “conscience clause.”

Socialists have little regard for human life. We have a Socialist President a Socialist House Leader and many Administraion appointments being made of Socialists. Human life will in all manner suffer greatly during the next 4 years.

More babies will be slaughtered. Older folks will be written off and left to die. These are already standard action in Socialist Country’s around the world. Now that the Socialist have taken over her it willhappen here.


11 posted on 03/02/2009 4:40:29 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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Federal funding is widespread in the abortion program.


12 posted on 03/02/2009 4:43:05 AM PST by Vaduz
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The truth is that prison is not the first option, it is the last. If it was a choice between obedience and prison, it would actually be *easier*.

What they intend to do is to break down resistance a bit at a time. First of all, mandate that medical students *have* to study these subjects to graduate. “Just studying” is different from “practicing”, so a lot of resistance will be broken down. It also eliminates the most stubborn, who are will to give up medicine even before they are trained, so they are never “counted” as medical people who resisted.

Second, since medicine is already dominated by federal money, they incrementally cut back on money for physicians who resist.

Then they work at the institutional level as well. So it’s not just the government applying pressure, but the HMOs, insurance companies, hospitals, etc.

They have willing accomplices in some State governments as well, who also turn the screws.

They are masters at coercion.


13 posted on 03/02/2009 4:49:07 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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I don't think they'd do us the dramatic and thrilling favor of putting a few conscientious doctors and nurses in jail. Thst would be a splendid scene and a rallying point for good people every.

But they don't have to put people in jail.

They just need to say, "Do this or you lose your license. Do this or you lose your job. Do this or you lose your funding. Do this or you'll be sued. Do this or you don't get published. Do this or you lose your certification. Do this or you don't get tenure. Do this or you're demoted. Do this or you're fired.

Step-by-step they have a million ways to turn the screws. That's why we NEED explicit protections for conscience. It needs to be ILLEGAL TO DISCRIMINATE against health workers who won't cooperate with abortion - euthanasia -infanticide - suicicde - the many manifestations of the Death Project.

14 posted on 03/02/2009 4:49:22 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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“many medical practitioners, including himself, will go to prison”; uh, well, he might go to prison; the bulk of opposing medical practitioners would be better served going to Uruguay.


16 posted on 03/02/2009 4:51:45 AM PST by glide625
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Is this rule strictly for “reproductive” procedures, or for anything that goes against one’s religion?

What I’m concerned about is something that we’ve seen on numerous threads about the goings on in Great Britain with muslim doctors and nurses. Women refusing to reveal their arms in order to wash. Refusing to use sanitizers, due to their alcohol content, etc...

I am just wondering if they might eventually start bringing that crap here...

Makr


19 posted on 03/02/2009 4:57:38 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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For so many reasons this may be the time and place and issue to take THE STAND against these people....I am reminded of something someone said a few centuries ago in a little town on a spring day in April...."If they mean to have a war, let it begin here".

Men died that day. But American was born. It is time for a rebirth.

29 posted on 03/02/2009 5:28:10 AM PST by mick (Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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Ping.


30 posted on 03/02/2009 5:31:41 AM PST by OKSooner ("He's quite mad, you know." - Sean Connery to Honor Blackman in "Goldfinger".)
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What’s this about a guy named Farrakhan being Obama’s REAL dad, and THAT’S why he keeps the birth certificate under SEAL? Can anyone here elaborate and give more details?


39 posted on 03/02/2009 6:09:31 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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This makes me wonder why pro-life doctors don’t just schedule all abortions on Thursday — and then call in sick on Thursdays...


40 posted on 03/02/2009 6:26:03 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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I’m still curious about that big ol’ hug Coburn gave Obama after the speech the other night. You’d have thought they were best buddies.


43 posted on 03/02/2009 7:09:24 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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God bless Tom Coburn.


45 posted on 03/02/2009 7:46:43 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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Coburn has the right idea. It’s time to start taking a stand against the monster we now have as President. Civil disobedience is a logical way to do that.


48 posted on 03/02/2009 7:57:18 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Let the 2nd American Revolution begin!)
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You bet your ass if a procedure was against Muslim beliefs they would get a pass!


51 posted on 03/02/2009 8:52:13 AM PST by golf lover
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Proves they are not “pro choice” -— as they don’t want doctors to have a “choice.”

Only pro-death.


53 posted on 03/02/2009 9:45:06 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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Federal funding is widespread in the health care sector owing to such programs as Medicare, Medicaid, the newly expanded SCHIP insurance program for children, and the many billions in federal funds spent each year on medical research.

I just made a point on another thread that Medicare and Medicaid insurance payments made to hospitals because the patient who obtained their service(s) was a Medicare or Medicaid participant is not *federal funding* and not in the same category as federal dollars for research or federal dollars to pay for updating the hospital, purchasing new equipment, etc. Am I mistaken, then? Am I to understand that any hospital that refuses to perform abortions will thus be denied payment of assignment claims? Medicare and Medicaid will be allowed to refuse payment of legitimate charges on the basis that a particular hospital chooses to exercise its First Amendment rights??

If this conscience clause EO was signed by G. W. Bush and is now being rescinded, what were Medicare and Medicaid doing prior to? Why is this recision coming across as NOW it will be a mortal blow to Catholic hospitals if they were surviving prior to Dubya's EO?? I'm confused on this point.

67 posted on 03/02/2009 10:50:25 AM PST by MozarkDawg
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