Posted on 03/01/2009 1:00:07 PM PST by Rennes Templar
That would be a powerful fact in an argument I'm having with someone. Can you supply any more information? I can't find anything definitive by google.
This is an outright lie by the media. Not one Hawaiian official said this.
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It’s AOL, what do you expect? They are very pro odumbo.
FYI — records from Occidental recently came to light that prove a student from Indonesia named Barry Soetoro accepted financial aid as a foreign student.
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When this happen????? Link?
but Obama would have to switch it with the one they have on file in Hawaii which needs conspirators to break in or do an inside job.
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Remember when he was there at Christmas and odd everyone thought it was that the power went out and was out all night long? What a coincidence. The fix was done then, but it’s still problematic. It’s hard to forge something like that. The paper can be dated.
That tells me that they are very concerned about a case that Berg has filed or is about to file.
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All of the military that has joined the suit is freaking him out. Also, there are things that Berg and Orly and Pidgeon know and have that they aren’t telling a single soul about, and they shouldn’t.
I did a search to see if I could come up with a source for facts concerning Maya's Indonesian birth registered in Hawaii. All I could find was a mention of it in the original Berg Obama lawsuit with no supporting facts mentioned. May not be true.
I looks like too many of these lawsuits are trying to put the cart before the horse. Until they can resolve the issue of “standing”, they’re not going anywhere, no matter how well-reasoned the logic. Maybe a first step would be to sue the Federal Election Commission (or individual state electors or US Congressmen) for not challenging Obama’s eligibility in the first place. If the USSC agrees with the Election Commission that they lack “standing”, then the plaintiff might at least have an opportunity to ask, “then who does have standing?”.
Google blocks such information. A good place to start is:
http://www.texasdarlin.wordpress.com
http://www.atlassgrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/
Here is the source article on Free Republic:
Importance of the newly discovered Dunham/Obama Sr. Divorce decree in proving ineligibility
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2158064/posts
GOOD LUCK!!
You're not thinking logically. The truth could easily be that he continued going by both names, and that those who knew him as Barry Soetero continued using that name until such time that he might have begun attempts to use the Obama name exclusively.
Who are you to foist this incorrect assertion onto the record? How is it you believe you know better than his sister, anyway? As you see, we get plenty of media trying to twist the record. We need to do a better job here.
HF
So? Just what are You saying? I believe You are stating that his sister was correct in her CNN Interview and that he only started using his “OBAMA” name after he went to Columbia as she most clearly stated. Yes?
Well at least SOMEONE is hounding Obama!
I don’t friggin care on what issue, just hound him!
That would be impossible because a crow chit on a fence post and the sun hatched him out.
“All of the military that has joined the suit is freaking him out. Also, there are things that Berg and Orly know and have that they aren’t telling a single soul about, and they shouldn’t.”
Not true. Orly fell in to a trap set by BO’s lawyer’s in her military case. Essentially Orly’s military case has been shut down by bo’s lawyers.
I was working very closely with Orly on her military case before she made the mistake with Lt. Easterly. Other than her plan to publicize Lt. Easterly’s involvement in the case I know all about her military case. I wrote part of the Brief and reviewed the entire Brief.
I advised Orly to list all Active Military as John Does in the Complaint and to not reveal the names of any Active Military. Obviously, Orly did not follow my advice.
I agree with you about Phil Berg. He has handled his cases in a very professional manner, only revealing what he is ethically allowed to reveal and only when such revelations are productive.
I have spoken with Gary Kreep and he strikes me as a lawyer who knows what he is doing too.
I don’t know the other lawyers involved in these cases, but I trust that all are doing the best job that they know how to do. This is an extremely difficult litigation without a lot of precedent.
“Maybe a first step would be to sue the Federal Election Commission (or individual state electors or US Congressmen) for not challenging Obama’s eligibility in the first place.”
HUH? Read the cases. “FEC & US Congressmen” have been sued & electors have been challenged.
Standing is no longer the problem. Current problem is jurisdiction but that is about to change.
“The “birth certificate” is a red herring...”
Don’t think so.
The “Natural Born Citizen” psuedo-Lawyer surrogates for BO have protested too much about that.
First rule of Political Damage Control is if there is bad information on a Politician the Politicians must put said bad information out himself to get control of the story.
What has BO done? He has tried to hide his Birth Certificate.
Now, obviously BO has forged Birth Certificates but it is also obvious that he and his lawyers are afraid that the forgeries are not good enough to deceive even the lower courts let alone SCOTUS.
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Using this precise name variation ( the abbreviated, initial "D" --instead of 'Dunham', was the cipher that broke open the search), they are claiming to have now located a POE (Port of Entry ) document that Obama's mother provided when she returned to the US with her son--soon after Obama's birth, (allegedly in Kenya).If Plains Radio produces the document, great. I'll keep looking, but I have to say I'm discouraged - no further information from Plains Radio on this, as far as I've seen (might have missed something). Additionally, I've been looking for this using FOIA in the search, and it now seems like this is the sort of "personal information" that would be excluded from FOIA release. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not sure about my interpretation of that. Any lawyers care to comment about whether one could get travel information on a private (non govt employee) individual via FOIA? Thanks.
There was some evidence I read that suggested some gal at Columbia really liked the name "Barack Obama" (and that he was happy to impress her) and thenceforward he went exclusively by that name (despite what his passports may have read?, and without any court-ordered name change). He may up until that time been known to some as one name, and to others a different name(s). I don't think we know the proportions of those who knew him at all who would have known him by one or any other name.
We do know that Barry was mendacious by stating on his bar entrance application that he did not have any aliases. He clearly had used "Barry Soetero" and "Barry Obama" in addition to the "Barack Obama" by which he called himself on that application. Furthermore, as there is no evidence of a judge's order for a name change from Barry Soetero, his legal name after Lolo adopted him, which would have been on any Indonesian passport he would have used to travel from Indonesia to the United States as a youth, Barack Obama has probably been falsely registering many government documents under an assumed name, which would not be legal, but we've seen before how Dhims love someone who shows he can get away with illegalities.
One reads that there was no US passport issued under the name of Barack Obama before he was given a special diplomatic passport after his election to the US Senate.
HF
Not all cover-ups are created equal. However, just because a President sounds honest, finger-wag and all, it does not mean his words are true. When he's hiring lawyers to prevent the truth from coming out, it's quite telling he's hiding the facts for a reason. Here's a classic example:
Clinton uttered the quote during a January 26, 1998, White House press conference when allegations were running high regarding an alleged sexual relationship between himself and Monica Lewinsky, a White House intern. At the conclusion of the press conference, Clinton said:[1]
Like most of us here on FR 10 years ago, we know ol' Slick Willie was trying to pull the wool over our eyes then. No need for an investigation per se, but in the end, someone always has the proof necessary, be it a TRUE "Certificate of Live Birth" in BHO's case, or a Blue Dress in Bill's situation.
If you wish to drink the coolaid with the rest of the sheep who elected him, more power to ya. For myself and a lot of others here, we'll reserve judgment, push to uncover the facts BHO is so vigorously hiding, and try our damnedest NOT to say, "Told you so," when the truth comes out.
Kinda reflects the election results, doesn’t it.
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