Posted on 03/01/2009 8:22:44 AM PST by STARWISE
Bill Clinton had the Vince Foster "murder." George W. Bush had 9/11 Truth. And the new administration has brought with it a new culture of conspiracy: The Birthers.
Out of the gaze of the mainstream and even the conservative media is a flourishing culture of advocates, theorists and lawyers, all devoted to proving that Barack Obama isn't eligible to be president of the United States.
Viewed as irrelevant by the White House, and as embarrassing by much of the Republican Party, the subculture still thrives from the conservative website WorldNetDaily, which claims that some 300,000 people have signed a petition demanding more information on Obama's birth, to Cullman, Alabama, where Sen. Richard Shelby took a question on the subject at a town hall meeting last week.
Their confinement to the fringe hasn't cooled the passion of believers; the obscure New York preacher James Manning turned up at a National Press Club session in December to declare the president "the most notorious criminal in the history not just of America, but of this entire planet."
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Good to see you on the thread, Ron. Your input is always valuable.
“The problem is not that he’s a Kenyan but that he’s a narcissist...and a socialist.”
I think that Rush shares this sentiment (”I don’t care if he’s from...Michigan!”). However, it is still a valid issue that bugs the hell out of hundreds of thousands of patriots IN ADDITION TO the commie-like program that Zer0 is trying to foist on the American people.
I’m tired of RINO’s, liberals, and Obots trying to define the agenda, aren’t you?
I agree. I thing they are confusing her with a noted troll who also has “Star” as part of her screen name.
This Big_Monkey is the latest in a long line of obfuscators. Best to ignore them, what do you think?
Thanks for the background on the cad. We should start doing ‘backgrounds’ on all of Obama’s brownshirts in the press.
Assuming they’re all different people. Sometimes I have my doubts.
Yes, but first i let them and the readers of the thread know that we are on to them and not to take anything they post seriously.
You are correct on the first note. But, you forgot to mention that Israel Insider was the first publication to kick TechDude to the curb. Fortunately, Linda Starr was not speaking for Berg when she made the erroneous reference to TechDude. She has owned up to the error she made. Berg only references my work, and you won't find any of Techdude's stuff left on Berg's website.
Pam Geller is a totally different situation. She has been repeatedly told by me that Techdude was a fraud, but she still insists that it's bonafide and continues to pimp her two "EXCLUSIVE Stories" written by Techdude.
Additionally, she still claims that Atlas Shruggs was the first blog to break the forgery story -- whiich is also not true as mine came out about a month before Techdude's first report.
There are stated ways to CLAIM citizenship, on that document. There is also an explanation that the date of your birth does come into play, as the laws do change, over time.
Obama is screwing up on the easy stuff, wait for the hard stuff, ahead!
I would rather read the Constitution. Article I gives Congress the power to establish naturalization laws for the country. How can Congress establish laws on who needs to be naturalized unless they first establish who doesn't need to be naturalized, i.e. who becomes a citizen at birth?
Orly fell in to a trap set by BO’s lawyer’s in her military case. Essentially Orly’s military case has been shut down by bo’s lawyers.
I was working very closely with Orly on her military case before she made the mistake with Lt. Easterly. Other than her plan to publicize Lt. Easterly’s involvement in the case I know all about her military case. I wrote part of the Brief and reviewed the entire Brief.
I advised Orly to list all Active Military as John Does in the Complaint and to not reveal the names of any Active Military. Obviously, Orly did not follow my advice.
I agree with you about Phil Berg. He has handled his cases in a very professional manner, only revealing what he is ethically allowed to reveal and only when such revelations are productive.
I have spoken with Gary Kreep and he strikes me as a lawyer who knows what he is doing too.
I don’t know the other lawyers involved in these cases, but I trust that all are doing the best job that they know how to do. This is an extremely difficult litigation without a lot of precedent.
Actually they did it here in Title 8 > Chapter 12 > Subchapter III > Part I > § 1401 thru § 1409 of the U.S. Code.
Pay special attention to where they define who is a citizen at birth.
Excuse me but YOU need a lesson in LOGIC!
The law, in place, at the TIME OF BIRTH dictates who is a “Natural Born Citizen” -— there is no way to grant that status, retroactively.
If you were not a “citizen” at birth, you can become a citizen later, by Congressional action or by Naturalization.
You can not, possibly, legally EVER become a “Natural Born Citizen” if the law, in place at the time of your birth, says that you were not a “Citizen” at the exact moment of your birth.
You are pathetically wrong on this one.
Even the passport application form mentions the date of the statute you list. That law ONLY applies to those born AFTER that date!
Actually Congress has done that on more than one occasion. The 1953 legislation was retroactive to children born between 1941 and 1952. Link.
You are pathetically wrong on this one.
Yeah right.
Ah, NO, you are even more wrong.
Congress can grant “Citizenship” retroactively.
Congress can NOT grant “Natural Born Citizenship” retroactively.
It is not logically or Constitutionally possible.
“If Wooch is working pro bono, I would assume there are records of this since he is essentially donation his time to 0bama.”
I wouldn’t assume anything with these people. It would be interesting to find out how the legal time is handled. I am not knowledgeable in government/campaign laws so I don’t know how it should be recorded. Does this time represent a contribution to BO? Would it be a campaign or other type of contribution? Maybe someone with some background in campaign finance knows the answers.
We also know that the left is going to bend over backwards trying to quash this thing making sure the innocent people who really have the right to know are discredited.
There are probably some less than desirable people acting on both sides; but the question is he or isn’t he eligible to be POTUS? And you can’t argue with that. Obama holds the key and so far he has done everything to secret it.
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