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1 posted on 02/27/2009 9:47:03 PM PST by Steelfish
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Er...somehow I had a different picture of what the Garden of Eden looked like in mind.

54 posted on 02/28/2009 3:32:30 AM PST by HarleyD (US-Borrowing money from China to pay for abortions in Mexico)
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Have they found any graves on the premises? A site so “sacred,” you’d think somebody would have to be buried there.


56 posted on 02/28/2009 4:06:22 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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I read this and it was interesting. There was a general tone to the article that man is worse off now than it was before “paradise” was lost.

It is either disingenuous, ignorant, or stupid.

It may have been paradise compared to a time of famine, but not compared to now.

It’s the simple things. I’m sure their teeth were perfectly healthy. And none of them had lice. No TB either right? When people got the flu or even a common cold, paradise would cure it? How about premature births? Hell, let’s get real simple: what did they do about jock itch and swamp-ass????

absolute mindless drivel, in terms of the sense of loss in this article. Maybe the writer never went camping for more than 2 nights straight.


57 posted on 02/28/2009 4:19:49 AM PST by laxcoach
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Great Post Bump - don’t miss the Smithsonian link at #14! ;-)


64 posted on 02/28/2009 5:48:27 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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bump for later read.


66 posted on 02/28/2009 6:03:39 AM PST by safisoft
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Fascinating! Thanks for posting.
68 posted on 02/28/2009 7:08:56 AM PST by Ditter
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"So what destroyed the environment? The answer is Man. "

There it is.

69 posted on 02/28/2009 7:10:53 AM PST by blam
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Fascinating ...


70 posted on 02/28/2009 7:20:23 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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Interesting reading, until it degenerates into radical environmentalist propaganda!


75 posted on 02/28/2009 9:47:37 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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There must have been some very P’Od folks in eastern African walking around and then finding out the fruit trees were better over yonder.


78 posted on 02/28/2009 11:35:10 AM PST by nufsed
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Not a crayfish, definitely a scorpion.
82 posted on 02/28/2009 7:03:59 PM PST by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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The Garden of Eden, recorded in the Bible, would have been wiped out by the Flood, another event recorded in the Bible. If you take one, you need to take the other.


84 posted on 02/28/2009 7:52:28 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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Thanks for the article and the ping. I’ve been rereading The Earth Chronicles by Zecharia Sitchin and this was fascinating in light of that.


85 posted on 02/28/2009 8:22:24 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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...that victims were killed in huge death pits, children were buried alive in jars, others roasted in vast bronze bowls.


This sounds much more recent — what Muslim Turk savages have done to the Christian peoples in just the last century.


89 posted on 03/01/2009 7:01:30 AM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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While I am really glad that this great 13,000 year old human (or was it ABs) monument has been found I am disturbed that he tries to make the change human cause.

Another big time Al Gore Climate Change guy, that is saying humans are responsible for the demise of the earth.

If the small number of humans caused a climate change in one area of Syria or Assyria or whatever it was called at that time, then they must have also caused the climate change in the Gaza and other deserts of northern Africa and elsewhere. When the ice age started to go about 10,000 years ago the climate changed as it has over millions of years, going from cold to hot, due to the normal cycles of the earth.


92 posted on 03/01/2009 7:18:04 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (I will always be a Soldier)
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this is a seriously interesting article.


95 posted on 03/02/2009 8:26:36 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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I’m a creationist, but I find these articles about finding the Garden of Eden silly. If you accept the Garden of Eden as being factual, you have to accept the world wide flood as being factual. The flood would have destroyed the original Garden of Eden. Additionally, the four rivers named before the flood would not be the same rivers we see today. Those rivers would be new rivers that carried the name of the old one. Everything that existed before the flood was destroyed.


103 posted on 03/06/2009 7:27:23 AM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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It is so old that it predates settled human life. It is pre-pottery, pre-writing, pre-everything. Gobekli hails from a part of human history that is unimaginably distant, right back in our hunter-gatherer past.

Clearly not. What seems to be going on here is (as usual) the archaeologists have assumed that societal conditions were the same over broad expanses -- hunter-gatherer in one place means hunter-gatherer everyplace.

A huge, fixed temple complex is a sign of settled life. The stones are carefully dressed, which implies the presence of experienced stone masons and the tools required to perform their craft. The stones are stacked, which implies not only big machinery, but also the people to operate it. In short, it requires a settlement of substantial size and fairly advanced technical ability. It also implies that there was some means to feed and water the population over a long period. A hunter-gatherer society would not be able to sustain it.

While the site may pre-date known writing, the pictures themselves are clearly symbolic -- the clear precursor of alphabetic language.

This is very sophisticated stuff -- it moves the line back for those things by a long way.

105 posted on 03/06/2009 7:35:37 AM PST by r9etb
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Cool article.

How come whenever some ancient structure is found, they always think it is some kind of temple?

Maybe it was a tavern.

:-)


112 posted on 03/06/2009 7:57:08 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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Here is a decent short article on the site, without all the sensationalism, pseudoscience and projection...
114 posted on 03/06/2009 8:02:39 AM PST by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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