Posted on 02/27/2009 8:34:48 AM PST by DouglasKC
You may have read that the Obama administration has altered United States government policy and has sanctioned "medical" marijuana by ending raids on "clinics" where "medical" marijuana is passed out.
The use of quotes in the paragraph above is deliberate. It's my view and the views of millions of conservatives that there is no such thing as "medical" marijuana...or at least in the way it's being presented to the public.
"Medical" marijuana is simply a term for pot being sold for profit under the guise that it helps a plethora of medical problems. The "clinics" are essentially drug dens that are attempting to gain a little more respectability. It has been the policy of the United States government to raid and shut down these clinics.
Now here's the problem. There are many so called conservatives that support these drug dens. They say that it's a states right issue. That this isn't a power delegated to the United States government.
Clearly this is a debatable point. For example I would offer that it's in the best interest of the country to ban something that is in the worst interest of the country. For example if we had a communist power develop a drug that would make our citizens lazy and unproductive then nobody would argue that we should allow this power to freely distribute this drug in the United States. There would be no hew and cry about "states rights".
But nonetheless there are those who have seized upon the issue of "medical" marijuana as the ultimate expression of states rights. That's fine. That's their rights as Americans. But here's what I wish.
I wish they would be honest and apply the same standard to abortion and pornography. I wish they would stand up and proclaim that abortion and pornography are in the same league. Because if you want to embrace their viewpoint you MUST embrace pornography and abortion.
Abortion, by their logic, should also be a state right. Pornography, by their logic, should also be a state right. Yet the federal government has mandated, by court decisions and law, that the support of these issues are the law of the land.
Now I happen to believe the opposite. I think these two issues are so dangerous to the country as a whole that they SHOULD be banned nationwide for the common welfare of the union of states.
What happened? It's easy. Religious morality stopped in government. We went from a nation governed by religion based morals a government based on amoral, or immoral principles. And let me make it clear..when I say religious morals I'm talking precisely about Judeo-Christian morality...or at least what this morality used to be.
And here's what these so called new conservatives fail to conserve. They fail to conserve the religious morality that stopped our leaders from ruling from a non-principled viewpoint. They fail to conserve the idea that right and wrong don't come from man or man's laws, but from God, the creator of man. They fail to conserve the notion that certain things are repugnant to God and to those who have His morals.
They have taken up the mantle of the 60's generation. Sex and drugs. Don't tell us what to do. We don't like your morals. Once they succeeded in tearing down God, they began working on the government.
John Adams, the 2nd President of the United States said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Oh so true. Without morals and religion our constitution fails. It breaks. It doesn't work. It's inadequate. It can be twisted and shaped to whatever viewpoint the rulers want.
Pot. Abortion. Pornography. All of these are issues that a moral people and a moral government instinctively reject. But remove morality from the equation and anything goes. God save us.
I'm not. I could just as well say that if it weren't for the behavior of potheads, pot would be legal, without even mentioning meth.
And John Adams drank hard cider every morning for breakfast.
He'd be pilloried today for it.
>>He’d be pilloried today for it.
And justifiably so.
Just because the Founding Fathers put away enough alcohol and tobacco in a day to make a sailor pass out doesn’t mean we have progressed beyond that point to become better human beings.
Pilloried, we should have public stonings today.
Think of the deterrent effect.
The only way to get 50 ideas back to Washington is to repeal the 17th Amendment.
Indeed!
Why, those alcohol-soaked, sotweed-addicted losers were responsible for that laughable document, the Constitution.
Thank Gaia that Socialism is saving us from the embarrassing implications of that dead letter.
I salute you sir for your willingness to offer remedies.
Mea culpa... You’re correct, sir. Your throwing out “liberal” as an epithet to those who disagree with you is more akin to a red herring. Also making assumptions not in evidence.
The more decisions Obama makes, the weaker he will become
What an excellent observation.
You decide.
It was a half measure because possession of alcohol was legal. So we would have needed to make possession a crime, and then yes, we would have ended up locking up a lot of drinkers. That wouldn't have worked either, so we would have had to keep kicking it up a notch here and there, increasing punishments, expanding the police force, allowing for more and more intrusive searches, and it would have gone on and on and we would have kept kicking it up a notch here and there because none of it would have worked.
It's all half measures, Moonman, until we get serious with it like Chairman Mao got serious with opium. That's where this leads to. When we throw the Constitution out the window and start shooting people in the back of the head because we suspect they are using drugs and shipping a bunch off to reeducation camps, when we become a society of informants, a totalitarian police state where everyone tows the party line or suffers serious consequences, then we'll see some real gains in the war on drugs. Slowly but surely we inch toward that direction when we just keep kicking the drug war up a notch. All this kicking it up a notch never really works because it is all just half measures. It's not the kind of total war that would be required to make a serious dent in the problem. The thing is though that the people of this country will not stand for the kind of measures that would be required to get the kind of results you are after. The half measures will never work but the people won't stand for a total war. This is the way it's going to be with the war on drugs and this is the way it would have been with Alcohol Prohibition had we kept it going and just kept kicking it up a notch.
I am not at all for legalizing all drugs but we have got to start thinking of different approaches because this crap we are doing is never going to work and and the more we kick it up a notch the more we're going to turn into the kind of nation we don't want to be.
The doctor prescribed a six-pack of beer for him to be kept in the hospital refrigerator to kick start his remaining kidney.
I’m not a scholar of the bong, nor a horticulturalist, but I thought the main reason to cull the female from the male plants was because only the female plants produced “useful” levels of THC.
Wouldn't it be fair to expect the same approach from you?
If so, when do you think we should start the summary executions for dressing immodestly or disrespecting one's elders?
Gee...I don't know? How many? Do you have witnesses? And if not then why are you spreading propaganda about the founding fathers?
Most of the problems we see in society today because of these issues are mostly because there are very few negative consequences left. Giving government more power won't solve these issues, but it will make government bigger. If that is what you want, at least be honest about it.
I want a one world government ruled by Jesus Christ. Until then I want to live in a nation that doesn't embrace and celebrate smoking dope, having abortions and creating pornography.
To even suggest this is just plain irresponsible. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather a fat 8 year old smoke a doobie once a week or have a twinkie? Which one is more destructive. And if you've never smoked pot your answer is irrelevant.
God, you're full of yourself.
Actually just the opposite. I'm smart enough to know I don't know anything.
You weren't smart enough to figure out that everybody already knows that.
If it were that cut and dry then life would be just rosy. We could have orgies in front of our kids. We could have our neighbors screw their horses in the front yard. But the problem is that these things DO influence society and culture as a whole.
Alcohol does not destroy families, alcoholics do it and they do more damage to families than pornography. Why aren’t you consistent about wanting to ban everything that harms society?
I have no illusions that our society is perfect or that it can be made perfect. But I do know that adding more imperfection is only going to make it worse, not better.
When I was a teenager my babtist church preached against dancing, claiming it led to all sorts of sin. Are you for banning dancing? After all, first you dance with a girl, then you get aroused, then you make out, then you have sex, and then comes abortion.
Do you want to continue this from a biblical perspective?
Those who are wise will know what it means. When you figure it out you'll have wisdom.
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