Posted on 02/27/2009 8:34:48 AM PST by DouglasKC
You may have read that the Obama administration has altered United States government policy and has sanctioned "medical" marijuana by ending raids on "clinics" where "medical" marijuana is passed out.
The use of quotes in the paragraph above is deliberate. It's my view and the views of millions of conservatives that there is no such thing as "medical" marijuana...or at least in the way it's being presented to the public.
"Medical" marijuana is simply a term for pot being sold for profit under the guise that it helps a plethora of medical problems. The "clinics" are essentially drug dens that are attempting to gain a little more respectability. It has been the policy of the United States government to raid and shut down these clinics.
Now here's the problem. There are many so called conservatives that support these drug dens. They say that it's a states right issue. That this isn't a power delegated to the United States government.
Clearly this is a debatable point. For example I would offer that it's in the best interest of the country to ban something that is in the worst interest of the country. For example if we had a communist power develop a drug that would make our citizens lazy and unproductive then nobody would argue that we should allow this power to freely distribute this drug in the United States. There would be no hew and cry about "states rights".
But nonetheless there are those who have seized upon the issue of "medical" marijuana as the ultimate expression of states rights. That's fine. That's their rights as Americans. But here's what I wish.
I wish they would be honest and apply the same standard to abortion and pornography. I wish they would stand up and proclaim that abortion and pornography are in the same league. Because if you want to embrace their viewpoint you MUST embrace pornography and abortion.
Abortion, by their logic, should also be a state right. Pornography, by their logic, should also be a state right. Yet the federal government has mandated, by court decisions and law, that the support of these issues are the law of the land.
Now I happen to believe the opposite. I think these two issues are so dangerous to the country as a whole that they SHOULD be banned nationwide for the common welfare of the union of states.
What happened? It's easy. Religious morality stopped in government. We went from a nation governed by religion based morals a government based on amoral, or immoral principles. And let me make it clear..when I say religious morals I'm talking precisely about Judeo-Christian morality...or at least what this morality used to be.
And here's what these so called new conservatives fail to conserve. They fail to conserve the religious morality that stopped our leaders from ruling from a non-principled viewpoint. They fail to conserve the idea that right and wrong don't come from man or man's laws, but from God, the creator of man. They fail to conserve the notion that certain things are repugnant to God and to those who have His morals.
They have taken up the mantle of the 60's generation. Sex and drugs. Don't tell us what to do. We don't like your morals. Once they succeeded in tearing down God, they began working on the government.
John Adams, the 2nd President of the United States said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Oh so true. Without morals and religion our constitution fails. It breaks. It doesn't work. It's inadequate. It can be twisted and shaped to whatever viewpoint the rulers want.
Pot. Abortion. Pornography. All of these are issues that a moral people and a moral government instinctively reject. But remove morality from the equation and anything goes. God save us.
Where do you get off posting an inane vanity as "News", anyway?
I don’t think you can tear down values. They stand on their own, no matter who, or what.
Isn’t it odd, that in a era of almost little to no government, we produced men that won the war? Why? Because from humble to plantation owner, everyone had to make it or not, on their own.
But, both conservatives and leftist now think it was the education of the environment, but the ‘Great Man’ theory that made it.
In short, we didn’t need Washington. The Crown was done because the mass of independent working, living, farming people wanted them out. Everything else was prologue.
We had a thousand Washington’s, maybe tens of thousands, all through the colonies.
Small government nurtures giants. Government manufacturers ghettos, Detroit, slums.
Plus, anything can be called pornography, from the Sears catalogue underwear section on up.
Are you serious??? Have you seen the harm it does to marriages? To families? To exploited women and men? Wow. Amazing. Pass the kool-aid. Sex! Drugs!
“You forgot to add in abortion. And homosexuality. And orgies. And everything else that a moral society would recognize as wrong.”
First of all, stop lumping abortion in with everything else you despise. Abortion has a very clear cut and very innocent victim. I am against abortion.
Homosexuality, Orgies and everything else that a moral society would recognize as wrong pretty much describes Iran, Saudi Arabia, the Taliban, and a host of other countries I find morally corrupt. If you think you can preserve or create a moral society by banning that which you find immoral I would suggest you are whistling in the wind. You can’t create a moral society by banning vice. You do it by creating a free society in which people are free to choose their own way and suffer the consequences of their decisions.
I’ve went, been tuned in for decades and hope to live to see a revolt.
Because it's "news" to a lot of people that so many so called conservatives have drunken liberal kool-aid and are in lockstep with Obama.
Classic strawman tactics, sir!
God, you're full of yourself.
How many of the Founders used to visit the local brothel regularly?
Most of the problems we see in society today because of these issues are mostly because there are very few negative consequences left. Giving government more power won't solve these issues, but it will make government bigger.
If that is what you want, at least be honest about it.
Who said it is a prescription?
What’s it to YOU or anyone else which drug she takes to treat her nausea?
I see.......only a governmentally approved drug is allowed, eh Big Brother?
Wilson sent all those milk drinking farm boy to France and they came back polluted with the french filth about putting what where. Most of the poor lads, as I have read, only had been exposed to special animal blankets to protect the delicate sensitives of the bull doing the cow the dog the cat, the cat the chicken and of course in the wood line a Scot with the sheep.
We should of shot the Doughboys at sea for the good of the country, children, decency. But no, after that flapper girls and hard cider and the Federal Reserve Act.
/sarc
“Are you serious??? Have you seen the harm it does to marriages? To families? To exploited women and men? Wow. Amazing. Pass the kool-aid. Sex! Drugs!”
It wasn’t the pornography that did it, it was the person who became obsessed with it that destroyed the marriage of the family. Alcohol does not destroy families, alcoholics do it and they do more damage to families than pornography. Why aren’t you consistent about wanting to ban everything that harms society?
When I was a teenager my babtist church preached against dancing, claiming it led to all sorts of sin. Are you for banning dancing? After all, first you dance with a girl, then you get aroused, then you make out, then you have sex, and then comes abortion.
“Wilson sent all those milk drinking farm boy to France and they came back polluted with the french filth about putting what where.”
Having seen French girls I think I could have been easily polluted.
>> Plus, anything can be called pornography, from the Sears catalogue underwear section on up.
Pornography is anything erotic you watch by yourself — “erotica” is anything you watch with your wife.
SnakeDoc
Do you even know what a strawman argument is? Do you even know what you are talking about?
Or is the term “strawman” your favorite term-of-the-month?
I just wasted 15 minutes of my life reading this thread.
Those who imagine that they speak for God are no better than the lost souls mumbling to themselves on skidrow.
Madmen all.
You will be subjected to counseling sessions by highly paid professionals on such topics as, "The Lure of Opiates" (Like they don't know already?), "Coping With Your Own Inadequacy", etc. This particular punishment often requires a $2.00 co-pay from the now "victim".
You will then be subjected to the indignity of receiving a monthly stipend covering most of your rent, utilities and food, so you won't have to do that much side dealing for your smokes and drugs.
Coming next: Alcohol rehab clinics start handing out two quarts a day (your choice) to cure alcoholism.
It's a good thing speeding isn't illegal, otherwise the prisons would be full of speeders.
Thank God you weren't running the show back then because you would have made it go on a lot longer and this country would have suffered a lot more. When your efforts didn't work, you'd say it's because we weren't cracking down enough and you'd crank it up a few more notches.
The problem wasn't with enforcement, or with not cracking down hard enough. The problem was with the law itself. It was a half measure that didn't work.
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