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Darwin reader: Darwin’s racism
UD ^ | February 14, 2009 | Denyse O'Leary

Posted on 02/24/2009 7:04:56 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

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1 posted on 02/24/2009 7:04:56 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Finny; vladimir998; Coyoteman; allmendream; LeGrande; GunRunner; cacoethes_resipisco; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/24/2009 7:05:44 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Hitler was a fan of Darwin....


3 posted on 02/24/2009 7:07:04 PM PST by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Posting such facts about Darwin would get you banned on Little Green Footballs.
4 posted on 02/24/2009 7:07:16 PM PST by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave

Haven’t gone near them since I heard the news.


5 posted on 02/24/2009 7:08:46 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: conservative cat

And contrary to what the Evos would like us to believe, Hitler hated Christianity.


6 posted on 02/24/2009 7:09:35 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

“And contrary to what the Evos would like us to believe, Hitler hated Christianity.”

Ok....finish your point.....


7 posted on 02/24/2009 7:13:04 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: GodGunsGuts

The dude was a genius, way ahead of his times.


8 posted on 02/24/2009 7:13:38 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: ExpatGator

“The dude was a genius, way ahead of his times.”

You are, if you follow the logic of this thread, therefore a hitler-loving racist atheist if you believe in science.


9 posted on 02/24/2009 7:18:00 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: GodGunsGuts
Slavery based on race alone was an early modern legal invention, aimed against blacks.

Not really. Although it does depend on how you classify "race".

The Spartans certainly classed the Helots as a separate race although we would not.

The Gibeonites were considered a separate race from the Jews and while they were not exactly slaves they were "hewers of wood and drawers of water" i.e. forced service.

10 posted on 02/24/2009 7:19:56 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Faith Manages.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I was just saying on another thread that Darwin was not anymore aware of the Germ Theory of Disease than others of his time.

In the next to last paragraph of the selection he says "..... who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox" ~ yet, today, we modern, civilized people know that being killed by smallpox has more to do with the virulence of the virus than from a "weak constitution".

Holding the victims of small-pox responsible for their own deaths is rather barbaric. Discussing characteristics of the different "brands" of human being was not then considered terribly "racist", if "racist" at all. We just discuss such things different these days ~ e.g. not in the presence of the subjects being discussed, and certainly not in public if the topic has been declared taboo by PC arbiters ~ even if failure to discuss results in the deaths of millions.

11 posted on 02/24/2009 7:20:52 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: GodGunsGuts

Chuck Darwin: a legitimate candidate for All-Time Loser.


12 posted on 02/24/2009 7:22:01 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

Chuck, unlike most of the clergymen of his time and ours, at least had a fully functioning brain.


13 posted on 02/24/2009 7:22:47 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

That’s not “forced service” ~ it’s “caste difference”. Once you have an hereditary right to “draw water” no one drinks unless you allow them to have water.


14 posted on 02/24/2009 7:22:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: RFEngineer

I prefer real logic.


15 posted on 02/24/2009 7:23:03 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: muawiyah
Read the story. Other people drew water but the Gibeonites had to do it if the temple needed water. They did not have a right to draw water but the obligation to do it.

Saul tried to wipe them out during his reign which also argues against your premise.

16 posted on 02/24/2009 7:28:57 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Faith Manages.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

The original Archie Bunker.

I get mad every time I read about this because the kids are always taught Darwin on Pot instead of Darwin on Speed. If they’re going to teach them this crap they really ought to teach where Chuckie was coming from.

Thanks for posting... the truth is out there. Way out there...


17 posted on 02/24/2009 7:33:22 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Welcome to the brave new world...)
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To: conservative cat; All

The Nazis were more in favor of Lamarck. I don’t really know why, perhaps they did not like the idea that “lower races” could become superior in a different environment.

Darwin’s ideas can’t promote racism without being seriously twisted. For example, Darwin did many studies on Galapagos Finches. More data was gathered since 1973 by Peter and Rosemary Grant. They examined two different species and found that the survival of birds with different body and beak sizes depended on how the environment affected the availability of different sized seeds. During the harsh drought of 1977 the small seeds were quickly exhausted since they could be consumed by both the small and large beaks. As a result, there was strong selection for birds with larger, more powerful beaks that could crack the large seeds. During unusually rainy weather in 1984-85, the selection went in the opposite direction. There was an overabundance of small, soft seeds so the birds with small beaks were better adapted. As a result, there was strong selection for small beaks during those years.

The point of this is that racism is totally meaningless when it comes to the science of evolution. Neither bird was “superior” to the other. Each had its own niche.

The article posted above says more about the character of those men then about the theory itself.


18 posted on 02/24/2009 7:36:41 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: conservative cat

Hitler’s middle name was “Elizabeth”


19 posted on 02/24/2009 7:38:57 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities. - D)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Not to argue with you but there's not enough information provided to demonstrate that a "water drawing" caste didn't have the same sort of monopoly all other such castes have had down through the ages in all other human societies.

It's kind of like the members of the French nobility who vied to have the honor of taking King Louis' night soil out of his chambers. It meant that every day they would have ACCESS to the King himself right in the morning when he was fresh and before others could tell him gossip about themselves!

Sure, both of us would have been in there begging to be allowed to draw water for the Temple, particularly the Chief Priest!

20 posted on 02/24/2009 7:40:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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