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Darwin's Birthday Poll: Fewer Than 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution
FOXNews.com ^ | Thursday, February 12, 2009 | FOX NEWS

Posted on 02/12/2009 6:54:08 AM PST by metmom

A new poll released just in time for Charles Darwin's 200th birthday found only 39 percent of Americans say they "believe in the theory of evolution" and just 24 percent of those who attend church weekly believe in the explanation for the origin of life.

The Gallup survey, released Wednesday, found a quarter of those polled do not believe in evolution, and 36 percent say they don't have an opinion either way.

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To: The_Reader_David

Pi is unitless, so the unit of measure is irrelevant. The Bible tells us, though that pi=3. That is false.


61 posted on 02/12/2009 7:48:18 AM PST by Buck W. (BHO: Selling hope, keeping the change.)
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To: Buck W.

***Does pi=3?***

/Roll eyes.....

http://www.purplemath.com/modules/bibleval.htm


62 posted on 02/12/2009 7:48:45 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: longtermmemmory

the shared DNA falls into, what I believe as proof of a designer, just as you believe it falls into the proof of evolution. Moot point

As to being both or neither, the problem I have is that I don’t need to know where I came from or explain it away. I am here. I was not around when the world began, so trying to say for any certainty that there is or is not an intelligent designer is kind of, well, unimportant to intelligent design theorists. The only people hellbent on proving the THEORY of evolution are those who need to prove it. Seeing as both are theories, and neither are proven (which if it would happen that one was proven, the other would cease to be a theory), I don’t personally care which theory you believe. I believe what I believe, and I have the right to believe it, as do you. I am not going to convince you that your THEORY is incorrect and you are not going to convince me that my THEORY is incorrect. Live and let live. I prefer to spend my time on putting an end to abortion, not worrying about proving whether we were created or evolved from a common ansestor. It is irrelevant, except to those who intend to disprove Gods existence.


63 posted on 02/12/2009 7:49:12 AM PST by wombtotomb (since its "above his paygrade", why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: The_Reader_David
No theory of evolution, not Darwin's, not Lamark's, not Gould's punctuated equalibrium theory, not the gradualist version of the neo-Darwinian synthesis CLAIMS TO EXPLAIN THE ORIGIN OF LIFE!!!

Haeckel's and Osborn's does.

64 posted on 02/12/2009 7:50:22 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
This appears to be how the folks with an agenda do science. Global Warming, Ozone Holes, Evolution, etc. The debate is over. My side won. If you disagree with me, you are ignorant about science.

What's more, I think evolutionists and others who claim the mantle of "science" need to clearly enunicate their case for *why* "science" should be taken as having greater authority than religion, metaphysics, or anything else for that matter. Why should I believe something, just because a "scientist" says its true?

65 posted on 02/12/2009 7:50:30 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: going hot
The atheists will snivel that their's is the only path,

Here is my problem with atheist:

We have God given rights in America. Not man or government given rights. Atheist are useful idiots to the left who wish to remove God from public view. If God is removed from public view, then we will pray to the government to handle our problems. I pray to my God and we handle my problems. I don't pray to the government.

I am not taking away the freedom to choose God or not. If they want to believe there is no God, have fun doing so. But do not remove God so that Government can take our rights away. Even if you are atheist, you should still hold on to the belief that we have inalienable rights, or one day there will be no rights.

66 posted on 02/12/2009 7:50:46 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Buck W.

You might as well toss out the rest of the Bible then.


67 posted on 02/12/2009 7:51:04 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wombtotomb
If we evolved from apes, why are there still apes. If we evolved from lizards or fish, same question.

That argument is actually one that shouldn't be used, because if evolution were true it wouldn't be contradicted by lower forms remaining.

68 posted on 02/12/2009 7:51:05 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("[Palin] has not even lived in the Lower 48 since 1987. Come on! Really!" --Polybius)
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To: Buck W.
I didn’t say I was reconciling the Bible with Christianity. As I said, Christianity is fully compatible with evolution. A fundamentalist belief in the inerrancy of every word in the Bible is not.

This may strike you as odd, but it's fairly certain Christ believed every word of the Torah. Verbatim. If the definition of 'Christian' is a 'follower of Christ', your statement is logically inconsistent. A true follower of God incarnate would not claim to know better than he. Those claiming the rational high ground often find it hard to defend without resorting to irrational arguments.

It takes a fairly liberal version of Darwinism and Christianity to reconcile the two of them. Let's not confuse 'fundamentalism' with logical consistency.
69 posted on 02/12/2009 7:51:30 AM PST by CowboyJay (Stop picking on Porkulus. He's not fat, he's just big-boned.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Coyoteman never mocked any religion.


70 posted on 02/12/2009 7:52:43 AM PST by stormer
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To: JmyBryan

unlike evolution, gravity is real science and can be expressed in the form of mathematical equations and can make testable predictions that follow directly from those equations. Evolution is just fuzzy fluff and conjecture. The ‘science’ of the Obama generation.


71 posted on 02/12/2009 7:53:35 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: metmom
I'd like to see a survey nailing down the percentage that believe that Adam was the first man, lived naked in the garden of Eden, and that God created Eve from one of his ribs.

That'd provide an interesting number to contrast with the 40%.

72 posted on 02/12/2009 7:54:21 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: metmom

The point is that the Bible, on this point, is wrong. There are numerous attempts to explain this away, including that in the post you provided. All require the reader to interpret the words of the Bible, and not take them literally. Does that not defeat your point?

One does not have to adhere to Biblical inerrancy to be a Christian.


73 posted on 02/12/2009 7:54:29 AM PST by Buck W. (BHO: Selling hope, keeping the change.)
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To: Buck W.
You're missing the point.

Pointing out that many evangelical atheists use evolution to mock Christianity (as I did in Post #6) is not attempt on my part to show that evolution is a false concept. You're raised a strawman there.

My point is that very few people need to know, or have an opinion on evolution. If it happens to be true, it's basically invisible until you start really digging and looking at DNA, and all that. For most people, it's a complete non-issue.

But that ISN'T how our culture treats it. It's a HUGE deal in public school science classes. Why? Well, it's not about the science. There is no really important benefit in having 11 year olds know about evolution. Do we teach them String Theory? Organic Chemistry? Astrophysics? No. But we always -- always -- teach the kids about evolution.

Why?

It's because evolution is such a useful tool to mock Christians. "You don't need God. When the Bible says God made man, it's lying. We came from mud. We're not special. We don't have a soul. We're basically animals, a lot like monkeys swinging in trees."

For some folks, there a huge benefit in getting that message as the dominant theme in our civilization.

74 posted on 02/12/2009 7:54:47 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Obama must be the Antichrist. No one else would work so hard to destroy the US.)
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To: parksie555
"Scary, truly scary... more evidence of the average American’s growing ignorance of science."

Science? What is your definition of "science"? Does it end with a theory, or does it require observation, a hypothesis, experimentation, repeatability, and measurable results?

Gravity is a law. Evolution is a theory. I am very confident when I board a jet that I will arrive at my destination because science (observation, experimentation repeatable results) has given me that confidence.

I have a degree in science that requires it's use to perform my duties. I have spent a great deal of time studying evolution. If air travel had the same level of "science" behind it, I would never step foot in any type of aircraft. Likewise, I do not risk my eternal life on the theories behind evolution.

75 posted on 02/12/2009 7:54:49 AM PST by uncommonsense
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To: CowboyJay

See my post #26.


76 posted on 02/12/2009 7:55:31 AM PST by Buck W. (BHO: Selling hope, keeping the change.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; Buck W.
Apparently you never had a chance to meet coyoteman.

And he won't have one anytime soon! Smooth kill!

77 posted on 02/12/2009 7:55:35 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("[Palin] has not even lived in the Lower 48 since 1987. Come on! Really!" --Polybius)
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To: metmom

No, you don’t have to toss the Bible out just because it is not to be read literally word-for-word.


78 posted on 02/12/2009 7:57:02 AM PST by Buck W. (BHO: Selling hope, keeping the change.)
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To: RetiredArmy

My family came from Europe. Why are there still Europeans?


79 posted on 02/12/2009 7:58:10 AM PST by stormer
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To: do the dhue
If God is removed from public view, then we will pray to the government to handle our problems.

If removing God from public view causes some to break with thier faith and choose another God, ie the fed gov to pray to, what does that say about thier faith in the first place?

80 posted on 02/12/2009 7:58:32 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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