Posted on 02/04/2009 7:03:19 AM PST by freedom lives
A RESOLUTION affirming States’ rights based on Jeffersonian principles.
Whereas the Constitution of the State of New Hampshire, Part 1, Article 7 declares that the people of this State have the sole and exclusive right of governing themselves as a free, sovereign, and independent State; and do, and forever hereafter shall, exercise and enjoy every power, jurisdiction, and right, pertaining thereto, which is not, or may not hereafter be, by them expressly delegated to the United States of America in congress assembled; and
Whereas the Constitution of the State of New Hampshire, Part 2, Article 1 declares that the people inhabiting the territory formerly called the province of New Hampshire, do hereby solemnly and mutually agree with each other, to form themselves into a free, sovereign and independent body-politic, or State, by the name of The State of New Hampshire; and
Whereas the State of New Hampshire when ratifying the Constitution for the United States of America recommended as a change, “First That it be Explicitly declared that all Powers not expressly & particularly Delegated by the aforesaid are reserved to the several States to be, by them Exercised;” and
Whereas the other States that included recommendations, to wit Massachusetts, New York, North Carolina, Rhode Island and Virginia, included an identical or similar recommended change; and
Whereas these recommended changes were incorporated as the ninth amendment, the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people, and the tenth amendment, the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people, to the Constitution for the United States of America; now, therefore, be it
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Before you start questioning my patriotism, bubba, perhaps you need to buy a vowel or diphthong (if you could speak words with that element in them) to clue you in about my eagerness to relive April 19, 1775, which happened mere miles from where I park my arse. You'd be surprised just how many of us Yankees think similarly.
Now, apologize or I'll have Barney Frank in drag as Baby Jane Hudson personally deliver your prize winnings in The Publisher's Clearing House Sweepstakes!
Kick against more pricks, Don Quixote. The 50 state governments are, more often than not, farm teams for the Feds, and that's not going to change in your children's children's lifetime. If it ever will, your "movement" needs to inspire the rank and file, i.e., the man and woman pulling the lever with the same intensity that they attend church every Easter and Christmas, i.e., those who aren't now currently engaged in politics or the political process aside from the rote "duties." And the only way you do that is by giving them a reason to care through education.
That any Act by the Congress of the United States, Executive Order of the President of the United States of America or Judicial Order by the Judicatories of the United States of America which assumes a power not delegated to the government of United States of America by the Constitution for the United States of America and which serves to diminish the liberty of the any of the several States or their citizens shall constitute a nullification of the Constitution for the United States of America by the government of the United States of America.
Meaning what exactly? You are happy to live under a system of government our forbears fought and died for, but are unwilling to make the selfsame sacrifices? Not only that but, more than likely, eager to kick the can down the road to your progeny. It's people like you that are going to bequeath to my grandchildren a country our Founders wouldn't even remotely recognize; except as a place they escaped from. Some patriot; some legacy.
Now, apologize or I'll have Barney Frank in drag as Baby Jane Hudson personally deliver your prize winnings in The Publisher's Clearing House Sweepstakes!
THIS GUY??? You guys can really pick 'em.
Think about this for more than a nanosecond: IF the states were to begin flexing their Constitutionally guaranteed muscle, wouuld it not be inspirational? At least for those that revere our Constitution and believe in the notion of self government? And that they are concepts worth fighting for?
And the only way you do that is by giving them a reason to care through education.
Good grief man! Do you propose to storm the walls of socialist academia? Right.
Agreed, but that was/is sort of the tenor of the thread and not my idea, FWIW.
I sure can. Can you carry all of them concealed anyplace but in a courthouse?
Why would they? What's in it for them?
And when you come down here, we don't peg you as a "New Hampshire-hole," or whatever ridiculous epithet one of our third graders could cook up while bored and nothing good was on television.
Therein lies the point, genius. Get it?
Why not?
What's in it for them?
Sounds pretty cynical to me but, what was "in it" for our Founders? Are you cynical enough to believe our Founders for the most part had anything other than honorable motives.
Oh boy . . . please don't tell me you're that naive.
Take your best shot punk.
Tell you what, I've got some things to do so why don't you just run along and gather your information to discredit our Founding Fathers with. Take your time. I'll check back in later to see how much mud you were able to assimilate for your presentation. Take care now, you heah...
You don’t peg us as anything (other then hicks and cowhampshirites) because we generally aren’t rude, don’t drive like maniacs, and we don’t move to your state and infect it with creeping socialism. MA residents and transplants earned the name it wasn’t spawned out of boredom.
Okay. For openers: John Hancock gained his wealth through his family's relationships with a succession of Massachusetts royal governors; he was an aristocrat of the highest order---at least in colonial terms. When the Stamp Act Crisis first hit Boston, Hancock preached moderation as a loyal British subject . . . until Sam Adams convinced him otherwise. Later, Hancock enjoyed a clandestine, cordial relationship with Thomas Hutchinson; Hutchinson even sought to use their relationship to exploit what he perceived was a split in the Whig party between Adams (Sam) and Hancock.
And let's not forget that Hancock profited handsomely in shipping prior to the Townshend Acts---as a royal aristocrat---and afterwards he probably made even more money as a smuggler. This from a man whose refusal to hand over the Lydia was arguably the first direct act of resistance to British authorities by Massachusetts colonials . . . to say nothing of the Liberty affair.
That's just off the top of my head. Were I at home where I have access to my books, we could discuss in depth the political climate in Boston prior to April 19, 1775 . . . which future revolutionaries were trying to gain favor with the Massachusetts royal government . . . which two Massachusetts political families---one of them who played a key role in fomenting the revolution, of course---had a long-standing political feud over the failure of the revolutionary family to be appointed to a lucrative royal government post . . . which well-known revolutionary was actually supposed to be a royal tea agent for the East India Company.
Even Samuel Adams, arguably the greatest revolutionary of all time, and arguably the most altruistic of the Founding Fathers, could not incite revolution through altruism alone. He had to employ Boston's North End and South End gangs to riot for him during the Stamp Act Crisis, and he sure as hell used their muscle to enforce his boycott of British goods. Plus, he had to wrap some of the rioting around "traditional" riots in Boston like the Guy Fawkes Day riots.
Evidently you consider these people deities, and completely forget they were mortal men. They were great men, but largely, they had the same faults as the rest of us; the same passions and the same weaknesses. Altruism is a crock of sh*t; sorry.
It's an absolute riot that you insist your state is "creeping towards socialism" solely due to outside forces, like an influx of people from other states. The crunchiest people I know can be found in Concord, NH . . . the biggest hippie-type public schools, too.
Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?
Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.
Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.
Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed the Declaration, pledging their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr, noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, who died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were educated men of means. They had security, but they valued liberty more.
Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.
They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fougnt our own government!
Great post - gives us humility!!!! Thanks.
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