Posted on 02/01/2009 7:21:00 AM PST by marktwain
A submachine-gun seized during a gang house raid in Winnipeg's North End last week is unlike anything a police firearms expert has seen locally before.
What makes the gun so unique -- and troubling, police say -- is the way it was cobbled together.
"It looks like a hybrid or amalgam of gun parts," said police Det. Const. Rob Duttchen, a member of the National Weapons Enforcement Support Team.
SHOTGUNS STOLEN
Possibly homemade, the submachine-gun and five sawed-off shotguns, along with ammunition, were seized at a house in the 400-block of Manitoba Avenue on Jan. 7, police said.
Three males, aged 17, 27 and 28, are facing almost 120 charges.
Two of the shotguns were stolen during a break-and-enter in the District 6 area, Duttchen said.
The submachine-gun was loaded when it was found, said police spokesman Const. Jason Michalyshen.
It has parts consistent with those of a Second World War-era Sten and M-16 assault rifle, said Duttchen.
A certain level of expertise and knowledge would be required to make such a gun, he said.
Duttchen said the gun will be sent to a lab in Ottawa for examination as part of an investigation into its origin.
Police showed the firearms to reporters yesterday, along with an assortment of drugs and a 9-mm handgun seized during a separate bust Saturday afternoon in the 800-block of McCalman Avenue.
"We've got a significant amount of firepower here," Michalyshen said.
HOLLOWED-OUT BOOKS
The handgun was loaded at the time of the bust, he said.
Two of the more unusual items were hollowed-out books used to hide about $9,000 in cash, police said.
Officers also seized 31.5 ounces of cocaine, 17 ounces of marijuana, eight Percocet tablets, two grams of hashish oil and 3.2 ounces of the cutting agent benzocaine.
Police said the drugs allegedly belonged to a mid-level dealer.
Police said Marc William McIntosh, 29, is facing several drug- and weapon-related charges. He is in custody.
“...It just isn’t possible to stamp out guns,...”
Wht about stamped reciever AKs? (joke)
As someone who builds guns for a living, these cops don’t know what they are talking about. A trip to your local hardware store and your local auto parts store is all you need to get the component parts to manufacture just about any kind of gun you want. It ain’t hard folks.
The gun in question doesn’t have any M16 fire control parts in it except maybe the selector. By the picture of the officer holding the gun it appears that the bolt operates from the open position. The M16 fire system is designed for closed bolt operation. There is one exeption to this but I seriously doubt that these guys got an LMG fire control group.
The gun appears to be home made but a lot of thought went into the design. Whoever made it pulled a lot of design ideas from guns that are proven in history.
I’m actually surprised that we don’t see more of this kind of news report. When you restrict a type of firearm, you’ll find a lot of people finding ways to get around the restriction... usually by making this stuff at home. Like I said, it’s not hard.
Mike
There is a yes and no answer to that question. Williams exhibited an enormous amount of mechanical ability while he was in prison and had an early out because of it. He had an idea for the floating chamber and the short stroke piston while he maintained the prison armory. The legend lead a lot of people into thinking he hacked out the M-1 Carbine while he was in a jail cell.
After his release, he further developed his ideas and had an audience with the ordnance review boards with General Hatcher. His work on the M-1 carbine was with Winchester.
Later, he parted ways with Winchester because of suspected theft of his designs while the company president considered Williams a difficult man to work with.
I believe that is it.
This was 8/3 SOJ "rubbercord", which is used inside the silo chute like a huge extension cord, right down to the 50 amp twist-lock plugs.
It has to be that size because of the length (usually over 100 feet) and the load (10 hp electric motor)....
Oh, OK, cables are exempt from the rules on colors for obvious reasons. But you’re right, the idiot should have used green as the ground.
Yep, I realize he didn’t actually build the thing in jail but he did design it and if he wanted to he could have made some sort of firearm while in there. The point is: If guns can be made in a prison environment they can be made anywhere, and many times are made.
You said:
“Plumbing is easy.
There are only 3 things you have to know about plumbing:
1. Hot is on the left,
2. Cold is on the right, and,
3. $h*t doesn’t flow uphill....”
I would like to add,
And never cut an apple with your work knife.
4. Don’t chew your fingernails
I'm also a mechanic.
THAT goes without saying.... ;-)
“The problem I always had was asking the operators why I was there to fix their machine.”
Sounds like you do repair work in a union shop. I know exactly the type you are talking about.
“Buy David Gingery’s books while you still can.”
I think I have every book he’s ever written. That guy was a genius!
Union shop.
The union was warned if they went on strike the company would close their doors.
I now work for a non-union shop.
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