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Obama, allies move stimulus fight into high gear
news.yahoo.com ^ | 01/29/09 | Olivier Knox

Posted on 01/29/2009 12:52:57 PM PST by shielagolden

Obama, allies move stimulus fight into high gear WASHINGTON (AFP) – After a failed "charm offensive," US President Barack Obama and his allies unleashed a hard-hitting campaign Thursday to break defiant Republicans' thus-far united opposition to his economic stimulus plan.

The strategy called for millions of labor union members to telephone Republicans from hard-hit states, coupled with an aggressive television advertising campaign targeting potentially vulnerable Republican senators.

The ad featured Obama's warnings about the economic crisis he inherited from George W. Bush and invited viewers in Maine, New Hampshire, Alaska, and Iowa to tell their senators "support the Obama plan for jobs not the failed policies of the past," according to the script.

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KEYWORDS: 0bama; 111th; bank; bho2009; bho44; bhostimulus; democrats; fundedbysoros; government; moveon; obama; obamabrownshirts; oprdebtact2009; porkulus; socialism; stimulus; unions; waronpork
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To: caseinpoint

Actually, it’s either unanimous or it’s not.

Technically, a united GOP can stop this through filibuster (unless Reid changes the rule).

Therefore, defections are very meaningful. It would be a huge victory for Obama if he can break the filibuster.

It will come down to the Maine Senators, McCain/Graham and the usual bunch. I haven’t much hope.


61 posted on 01/29/2009 1:25:39 PM PST by Boiling Pots (Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious)
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To: WOSG

‘We will fight bravely, but outcomes will be pre-ordained.’

True..but a couple of points.

1. Don’t know about anyone else, but six weeks ago I wouldn’t have bet on House Republicans putting up ANY fight, let alone unanimously doing so.

2. Yep, the outcome was ‘preordained’. Which tells us what odds the Obama administration puts on it actually ‘working’ given the effort to get Republican support onboard, and the anger when it did not happen.

They KNOW it won’t do a damn thing for the worsening economy.


62 posted on 01/29/2009 1:27:50 PM PST by Badeye (Gee, Willie, had to get a job, huh? (chuckle))
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

It passed in the House but the Senate won’t vote on it for a week or more. He needs to co-opt some Republican support there so he can claim it’s bi partisan. The Senate vote will be a real test. It will pass but the rel question is how many Rep votes will be for it.


63 posted on 01/29/2009 1:28:01 PM PST by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: Boiling Pots
It would be a huge victory for Obama if he can break the filibuster.

No, just having to expend political capital to stave off a filibuster at this stage is a big loss.

64 posted on 01/29/2009 1:28:54 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Badeye

Have never seen it happen this fast. I didn’t like Clinton but it took me longer then a week to loathe the man. The minute ZERO said “I Won” all bets were off. He is in charge so he can live with it! We need to prop up the Republican Senators to vote NO!


65 posted on 01/29/2009 1:30:45 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Sam Bradford Heisman! LetsGetThisRight.com RED STATE Oklahoma Republican)
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To: shielagolden

Fight back!


66 posted on 01/29/2009 1:30:45 PM PST by romanesq
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To: Cedric

You’re right, I meant to say “it will be spun as a major win..”


67 posted on 01/29/2009 1:31:45 PM PST by Boiling Pots (Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious)
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To: Badeye

#1 - True! - I was frankly hoping for less than 12 ‘defections’ as a ‘good marker’. ZERO is awesome. It’s also a sign of how badly the Democrats in Congress are over-reaching.
It would have been easy for them to craft even a big-spending bill that had a lot of GOP support, just due to the ‘we have to do something’ factor. Instead, they Christmas-treed it into a parody of bad govt appropriations.

#2 - It’s still curious, and perhaps a mistake, that they dont merely want to govern, they want to somehow destroy the GOP as an effective opposition. It has already failed, thank God.


68 posted on 01/29/2009 1:31:59 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government -)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Didn’t I read that some unions were threatening to go on strike?

They’ll have plenty of time to make phone calls.


69 posted on 01/29/2009 1:32:06 PM PST by Carley (Remember when we had a real President)
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To: shielagolden
Obama's definition of bipartisanship is the Republicans must get on board, even if their support is not needed, so they can share the blame and lose a future campaign issue.

Let's hope the Pubbies have the intestinal fortitude to ride this out.

70 posted on 01/29/2009 1:32:48 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: Boiling Pots
I think the Republicans are taking Obama’s measure.

Remember, he's just a puppet.

71 posted on 01/29/2009 1:33:05 PM PST by Cedric
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
oh, I'm emailing them alright -- I emailed McCain, Kyl AND McConnell to tell them absolutely do not support this... oh, and BTW

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/01/29/mitch-mcconnell-needs-our-help/

72 posted on 01/29/2009 1:33:10 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: caseinpoint

...only five of some 220 Republican Senators and Representatives voted for it. Hardly bipartisan and I doubt it would provide the cover they crave.”

No FRiend, if even three Senators vote yes on the Republican side they will be cited as a triumph of the almighty self-anointed 0ne.

Praise Obama.

Watch.


73 posted on 01/29/2009 1:33:10 PM PST by romanesq
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To: lainie
send them this:

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/01/29/mitch-mcconnell-needs-our-help/

74 posted on 01/29/2009 1:33:48 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: shielagolden

This is a Megapork bill, which will do absolutely nothing to help the economic problems for which Obama and his friends are largely responsible.


75 posted on 01/29/2009 1:33:57 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: PhiKapMom

I think the number of voters who are asking themselves ‘Ahhh, what did we do?’ is growing exponentially right now.


76 posted on 01/29/2009 1:35:08 PM PST by Badeye (Gee, Willie, had to get a job, huh? (chuckle))
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To: Badeye

If Obama thought this boondoggle had an even chance of improving the economy, he would relish the Republicans handing him a huge campaign issue by not getting on board.


77 posted on 01/29/2009 1:36:05 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: WOSG
they (Dems) want to somehow destroy the GOP as an effective opposition

Of course, that's why they're currently better at politics than the GOP is.

78 posted on 01/29/2009 1:37:23 PM PST by Cedric
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To: shielagolden
The strategy called for millions of labor union members to telephone Republicans

Republicans can count votes delivered to them by labor unions on one hand. I am sure that they will take all those calls seriously.

79 posted on 01/29/2009 1:38:11 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: Cicero

“The interesting thing is that they (the financial institutions) don’t come to the Congress, I mean the Federal Reserve buys them out, they own it. We as tax payers now own Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and know one knows how much that will cost. They don’t come to the Congress, we don’t have appropriations, it’s done by secret government, private individuals behind the scenes maneuvering and manipulating and trying to patch things up. While in the meantime, I’m sure there’s a few people making a couple of bucks out of this whole thing.”


80 posted on 01/29/2009 1:38:37 PM PST by shielagolden
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