Posted on 01/27/2009 10:16:03 AM PST by FreeAtlanta
Rush just said that Obama isn't afraid of him. With one signature, Obama could spell the end to this show. This has to be why he and others will not question the Birth Certificate issue.
Read Perkins v. Elg which states that a person born to one naturalized citizen and one non citizen is a "natural born citizen" of the United States.
If you say so, but I have seen no documentation that states that citizenship was automatically acquired by marriage in the United States.
Oaky, thanks, but I am unaware of any court battle that have taken place regrading the NBC Question.
Oaky, thanks, but I am unaware of any court battle that have taken place regrading the NBC Question.
That was sarcasm right?
because usually an alarm goes off on your computer whenever someone post anything about Obama's Birth certificate.....
I have two passports, a U.S. Passport and a passport from the country where I was born. Whenever I exit of leave the U.S. I use my U.S. Passport however, there have been times when I used my other passport to enter and exit a third country. There is nothing illegal about that process.
A court battle is when two opposing sides argue a case in front of a court.
To the best of my knowledge, there has not been one single court where two parties argued the NBC Question in front of the court. Yes, numerous cases have been submitted to courts and rejected, but none have been accepted by a court to be argued.
But they really haven't. They've denied motions for injunctions, for stays, and cert only for those cases that have not gone through the "proper" tack in lower courts.
Now that might not mean anything. Or it could mean they are dotting their i's and crossing their t's, making sure whatever they do in the future is completely legally defensibily.
We shall see. Stay tuned.
I have examined the issue of Perkins v. Elg. It simply does not attempt to determine what is a natural born Citizen, per the presidential requirement in the Constitution.
Natural Born Citizens: Or How to Beat a Subject to Death with a Stick, Judah Benjamin, November 28, 2008
The Law -- Perkins v. ELG, CalperniaUSA
One can day similar things about Dredd Scott and Roe/Doe.
It is for the court to decide and Congress to reinstill their responsibility to legislate.
On the re-do, he probably had his other hand behind his side with his fingers crossed.
Some people's oaths are not worth the paper they weren't written on.
I really hadn’t hoped for my golden years to be filled with running skirmishes against cult followers of some false messianic POS. But, if it must be so...............
here: 10 Statute 604 section 2 February 10, 1855
It says ‘parents naturalized’ right in the first sentences of Perkins v Elg, yet you assume the opposite.
Are you an Indonesian citizen?
Claiming Indonesian citizenship as an adult means the revocation of any other citizenship status, as I understaned their law.
You may also find this interesting:
Dual Citizenship Makes Obama Ineligible Under Article II By Judah Benjamin, Guest Author
Pardon, I had stated 18 as the age at which Obama's Indonesian citizenship meant foreswearing American citizenship. Apparently, it was 21.
I do not suppose that it was ever his intention to give up his US Citizenship and it does not matter to me one bit. It doesn’t matter to Indonesia either. If Lolo Soetoro adopted him he ceased to be a US Citizen in the mid 1960s, BY INDONESIAN LAW. He also ceased to be a Kenyan Citizen, BY INDONESIAN LAW. By Kenyan and US Law he retained his Original Citizenships, until his 21st Birthday. By Indonesian Law he could have given up Indonesian Citizenship at age 18, but did he? If he didn’t he was, albeit accidentally, displaying a Legal Intention to void his US Citizenship, since he knew he could not Legally hold both Citizenships.That, of course is only one of the three failures of Obama to demonstrate eligiblity.
The Elg decision states that Miss Elg was in fact a natural born citizen.
Miss Elg was born in Brooklyn to a father that had been naturalized. Miss Elg moved to Sweden and returned to the United States. She kept her status as a natural born citizen.
Yes, Roe is bad law, but it is the law.
ibid., thanks
Only if they bother with even pretending to observe the Constitution. Radio and TV are regulated by the federal government under the Interstate Commerce clause. But the regulation is *supposed* to be to insure noninterference. It's been stretched further to "ensure the proper use of the supposedly public airways". The fairness doctrine already stretches even that. Why not stretch it a bit more and regulate all interstate media under the IC clause. That would of course include cable and the Internet.
People who don't respect the Constitution..don't respect the Constitution.
IOW, any new rules could cover whatever they wanted. At least until the Supreme Court got around to ruling against them, if they did.
If that is a case, you may want to file a NBC case against Obama in an INDONESIAN Court.
You state that like it's a known fact with precedent. It's not. The situation of an ineligible person unlawfully occupying the office of President has never come up, so almost anything could happen.
Besides which, suppose it did come out that he was born in Timbuktu, and is not even a citizen. You think the country would just say "Oh well"? Look at what happened to Old Blog, set upon by his own party lest the people of even jaded Illinois set upon them. He might very well be impeached. He might step down. Who knows? There is no precedent.
The decision stops short of saying she was was a "natural born Citizen" per Article 2, regarding presidential eligibility. It does not address this, nor did it intend to, nor did this case refer to that. It simply upholds a lower ruling that she was a citizen and that lower court happened to use that phrase.
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