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President Commutes Sentences for Ramos & Compean on Final Day of Office
U.S. Border Control [usbc@usbc.org] ^ | 01/19/2009 | Edward I. Nelson

Posted on 01/19/2009 1:03:02 PM PST by JOAT

Dear XXXX:

After making them suffer two long and painful years in solitary confinement in a maximum security prison, President Bush, on his very last day of office, having received more than five million emails, letters, postcards and telephone calls from citizens all across the country, finally commuted the sentences of Ignacio "Nacho" Ramos and Jose Compean, two brave and decorated Border Patrol agents, improperly charged with the non-crime of using a firearm as they stopped a drug dealer from bringing in more than 700 pounds of narrcotics into the U.S.

Please accept my thanks for your great effort in working for the release of these two men who can now reunite with their families and begin their lives over again.

Edward I. Nelson, Chairman Chairman U.S. Border Control 8180 Greensboro Drive, #1070 McLean, VA 22012 ednelson@usbc.org www.usbc.org


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: borderagents; borderpatrol; campean; ramos; ramosandcompean; sentencecommuted
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To: Doc91678
If Clinton could pardon terrorist why didn't Bush pardon these guys?

Because Bush (unlike Clinton) believes in the rule of law. Ramos & Compean committed a crime when they covered up evidence at the scene. Commutation was the right gesture.

61 posted on 01/19/2009 2:20:45 PM PST by Cedric
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To: rightwingjew

Because someone tried to kill them as soon as they went to prison, also it helped the Government while they were in solitary because they could limit access by the press.


62 posted on 01/19/2009 2:23:36 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: TheOldLady

Another one who hasn’t read the trancripts. You are so gullible it is sad.


63 posted on 01/19/2009 2:24:01 PM PST by csmusaret (Call any Congresscritter at 1-877-762-8762. Tell them what you think.)
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To: exist

I’ve got a fresh “W Still the President” sticker that’s going on my auto (just below my Texas A&M University Former Student Century Club sticker) later tonight.


64 posted on 01/19/2009 2:25:30 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Seven plus One

I know what you mean....right now its all ObamaFest all the time..whether its MSNBC or Fox.


65 posted on 01/19/2009 2:28:14 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Memo To George W. Bush: Geo. Washington, Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt all were Protectionists....)
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To: Doc91678

I remember hearing one of the agent’s wives on the radio (Mike Gallagher’s show) saying that they didn’t want full pardons because it would imply guilt... they wanted commutations and then would work through the courts to clear their names via appeals/new trials.


66 posted on 01/19/2009 2:28:14 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Cedric
Because Bush (unlike Clinton) believes in the rule of law.

Really, that must be why he gave full pardons to various criminal cretins over the past couple of months instead of two Border Guards doing their job... here we go again defending the indefensible!

67 posted on 01/19/2009 2:28:41 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: rightwingjew

They were put in solitary because one of them was severly beaten by illegals while put in the general population...so they put them in solitary.

Glad they are being released...but should be pardoned


68 posted on 01/19/2009 2:30:35 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Memo To George W. Bush: Geo. Washington, Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt all were Protectionists....)
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To: AvOrdVet

Yes that is correct...Bush had been pardoning all kinds of drug dealers, while the two wrongly convicted Border Patrol agents were sitting in prison. Some rule of law!

Bugs me with some of the ignorance from some of the posters regarding this case, especially from those who claim to have “read the transcripts”....obviously they have not seen or read any of the evidence


69 posted on 01/19/2009 2:34:47 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Memo To George W. Bush: Geo. Washington, Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt all were Protectionists....)
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To: AvOrdVet

Names and circumstances, please.


70 posted on 01/19/2009 2:35:40 PM PST by Cedric
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Bush had been pardoning all kinds of drug dealers...

Uh huh.

71 posted on 01/19/2009 2:38:48 PM PST by Cedric
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
especially from those who claim to have “read the transcripts”....obviously they have not seen or read any of the evidence

Absolutely, I'm wondering if there are two transcripts somewhere... and there are two out there... one with the facts and the other put out by Suttons office and picked up by the press and the libs.

72 posted on 01/19/2009 2:41:52 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Trajan88
I’ve got a fresh “W Still the President” sticker that’s going on my auto (just below my Texas A&M University Former Student Century Club sticker) later tonight.

Wow you're a braver man than I. I'd like to do that but I don't want my car trashed by liberals.

73 posted on 01/19/2009 2:44:10 PM PST by exist
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To: AvOrdVet

There was a lot evidence released AFTER the trial...after Congress subpaenoed the DOJ, DEA, and DHS for all evidence and info related to the case. The Feds tried hard to stall any release of evidence

That evidence showed that R & C did not fail to report the incident to their superiors...as their supervisors were there on the scene and told the two to pick up their shells. Also, the evidence showed that Aldrete-Davila was busted later, while on his immunity deal (with free border entry passes), hauling another 1/2 ton of pot.

The crux with the whole trial was that R & C were not allowed to introduce the SECOND A-D drug bust into the trial...which would have totally discredited A-D testimony (he claimed he was not a “drug dealer”...just needed money for his mom).

Their conviction was a travesty....and theirs was not the first of questionable cases pushed by Johnny Sutton against law enforcement dealing with illegal aliens.


74 posted on 01/19/2009 2:51:54 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Memo To George W. Bush: Geo. Washington, Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt all were Protectionists....)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

There should be a few people replacing R&C in jail, and we all know who they are!

BTW Glenn Beck is Interviewing their wives right now on FOX.


75 posted on 01/19/2009 2:57:05 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: mick
"You are correct about squandering so many chances on so many issues.

We old timers here were so disgusted with "the bent one" that we were ready to be snookered into believing that a man who always wore a suit in the oval office, didn't cheat on his wife, and told us he was a conservative was a man of principle. We were wrong.

History will judge him as an arrogant pretender who wiped out the GOP and gave us BO. What a legacy, George !"


Well said. This is a nice summary of his presidency.
76 posted on 01/19/2009 3:02:22 PM PST by johnwayne
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To: AvOrdVet

Who?


77 posted on 01/19/2009 3:02:45 PM PST by Cedric
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To: AvOrdVet

Yes just saw the interview....good to see the wives happy

Though someone should slap Liz Wiehl....she knows nothing about the case...and thought her comments were patronizing to Mrs Ramos and Mrs Compean. But what do you expect from a TV lawyer married to a liberal ambulance-chaser


78 posted on 01/19/2009 3:06:17 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Memo To George W. Bush: Geo. Washington, Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt all were Protectionists....)
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To: All

January 19, 2009

Note: The following text is a quote:

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2009/January/09-opa-053.html

President George W. Bush Grants Commutations

WASHINGTON – On Jan. 19, 2009, President George W. Bush granted commutations of sentence to two individuals:

COMMUTATIONS:

Jose Alonso Compean – El Paso, Texas
Offense: Assault with a dangerous weapon, and aiding and abetting, 18 USC § 7, 113 and 2; assault with serious bodily injury, and aiding and abetting, 18 USC § 7, 113 and 2; discharge of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence, 18 USC § 924; deprivation of rights under color of law, 18 USC § 242.

Sentence: Nov. 12, 2008; Western District of Texas; 12 years in prison, three years of supervised release following the prison term, $2,000 fine.

Terms of commutation: Prison sentence to expire on March 20, 2009, leaving intact and in effect the three year term of supervised release with all its conditions and the fine.

Ignacio Ramos, a/k/a Ignacio Ramos Jr. – El Paso, Texas
Offense: Assault with a dangerous weapon, and aiding and abetting, 18 USC § 7, 113 and 2; assault with serious bodily injury, and aiding and abetting, 18 USC § 7, 113 and 2; discharge of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence, 18 USC § 924; deprivation of rights under color of law, 18 USC § 242.

Sentence: Nov. 13, 2008; Western District of Texas; 11 years and one day in prison, three years of supervised release following the prison term, $2,000 fine.

Terms of commutation: Prison sentence to expire on March 20, 2009, leaving intact and in effect the three year term of supervised release with all its conditions and the fine.
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09-053


79 posted on 01/19/2009 3:07:22 PM PST by Cindy
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To: johnwayne; mick
No, it's an excellent encapsulation of the petulance and near-sightedness that has crippled the GOP.
80 posted on 01/19/2009 3:08:48 PM PST by Cedric
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