Posted on 01/03/2009 7:01:24 AM PST by dascallie
Last night Ed Hale presented the (heretofore, unseen) divorce decree on Plains Radio between Obama's mother and Obama Sr ( her FIRST marriage).
The key bonus in this was the revelation of the specific version of her name in the decree, Stanley Ann D. Obama.
Using this precise name variation ( the abbreviated, initial "D" --instead of 'Dunham', was the cipher that broke open the search), they are claiming to have now located a POE (Port of Entry ) document that Obama's mother provided when she returned to the US with her son--soon after Obama's birth, (allegedly in Kenya).
The POE allegedly includes Obama's birth information/certificate ( British Kenya) as required for entry. Stay tuned for events...see other comments below. -------------------------------------------------- DesertVet Newbie
Posts: 11 Re: Obama-Dunham 1964 DIVORCE DECREE Forthcoming « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2009, 09:39:16 PM » ***********Stanley Ann D. Obama*************
No secret I've been highly skeptical on this whole ordeal. I'm now beginning to think this could very well lead the way to the smoking gun. Until this document she has only been known as "Dunham", no where in public records has Obama's Mothers name read as it does on this divorce decree. I believe the "D" being abreviated has allowed them to locate her records. This has led them to a "port of entry" birth certificate for Barack Obama. She submitted this POE certificate when she came back to the US, and the fact that there is a POE Certificate...proves that he was indeed born out of the country.
This would mean that Obama has never been through Immigration & Naturalization Services in his life, he became a citizen of Indonesia, and never applied for a U.S. passport. If this is the case, then he's not even a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen.
I'm not 100% certain on my assertion of above take on this document issue, but I think it is HIGHLY plausible. I'm still not ready to dance in the streets by any means yet (Yeah, I'm a tough sell). But I am quite intriguied at the moment. Couldn't say that earlier today.
Wouldn't it be simpler to just provide the certified vault copy of his long form BC?
There could have been U of Wash. extension courses on a U of W campus in HI in 1961. We haven’t tracked down that piece of data yet. And you can bet Ed Hale hasn’t either.
Yelp....GIve him enough rope and....oops that’s not PC anymore.
I agree with you 100%.
At one time I too trusted familysearch.org until I started researching about this last summer. When I went to look at the Dunham file it didn’t seem quite right to me. I noticed the name of the submitter was David A. Larson so I googled the name. It is the name of an architect in Chicago. I then asked my neighbor, a Mormon, who can submit info to their website and was told anyone can. What I do trust about the site is when they link to the SS Death index, since it is government and death records would be accurate, especially to prevent overpayment of benefits.
Yes, but my comment to MHGinTn related to a number of incidents listed in his or her #332.
Being avery young teen-age mom, I think that she would be happy to let anyone change the dirty diaper if they were willing to. I don’t think it had anything to do with her knowledge of how to do it. She was an only child and probably not all that used to cleaning up and doing stuff for herself. So she let her friend play Mommy with her baby because it was convenient to her.
“SO..., I would be glad to have an Admin Moderator give me a call, on the phone (write and I’ll send the number). Please do and maybe you can help these guys know that they’re barking up the wrong tree and are inventing conspiracies out of nothing — which is kinda embarassing for them, I would think.”
Why do you care? Why do you care what is or isn’t embarassing for us? Why are you wasting your time to convince us that
A) Barack wasn’t a citizen of Britain/Kenya when he has by his own admission confirmed this?
B) There is no need or reason to attempt to find out information that is being hidden, rather expensively even.
Why on earth are you spending soooo much time trying to tell us to stop? It makes no sense.
Don’t try to protect me from myself. Please.
Just stop already.
I have seen posters refer to the law as it was in 1961 but I do not recall someone actually posting a link to the law as it was in 1961.
I was wondering what that could be? Maybe "Uncle Frank"?
No, you are half correct.
She was 17 when she became pregnant, 18 when she gave birth.
So you are right, and wrong at the same time, LOL!
The best trolls have early sign up dates.
That's somewhere in the "long thread". Good luck finding it, I wish we had an index :)
I can't figure out who wrote this but this is something to think about. If this bill goes through, Obama cannot run for re-election without proof of citizenship. Unless in the next term he destroys the Constitution as he has said he wanted to do. (Emphasis mine on destroy, hands off Obama and Soros.) As the Shadow party who controls Obama says they want to be done. Then we lose over this chance at that point.
Ann took correspondence courses for the first two semesters at UW then actually attended classes the third semester. One of her friends places her still in WA in fall of 1962, and the info about an apartment at 110 1427 Alexander St being rented in early 1963 gives the date as to when she returned to HI.
While a newborn mostly eats, sleeps and messes their diapers it would be a good time to complete correspondence courses, but this would be more difficult as the child becomes older. I have no idea who took care of Jr while Ann attended classes, but I found it interesting that her best friend from high school, Maxine Box, who was also attending UW at the time wasn’t aware that Ann also attended classes.
Since 1911, delayed birth certificates can be applied for in Hawaii.
361 posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 3:21:53 PM by MirandaRietz
I have naked pictures of Obama’s mum on me bloody hard drive. I am (by the way) strictly, NOT, I repeat, NOT, amused by the images.
There has NEVER been a more unqualified person elected to the office of president, EVER!
You simply cannot use ANY template of reason-ability to reach a conclusion about this uber dysfunctional family. It's simply not possible. Try as you may...
Pick a TV show to explain the family dynamics.
Twilight Zone?
Night Gallery?
Adam's Family?
Munsters?
I believe that in the late 50’s / early 60’s, the family was escaping the pressures of the cultural and societal values of America, that impugned their daughter's behavior. To add insult to injury, the daughter was swept up in the counter culture movement of the times, exacerbating the situation at hand.
What all of this says, taken in totality, is that America reflects / embraces the Dunham family model. THAT my friend, is the exclamation point to my reply.
Nor did she bring up the previous marriage in Kenya, which would have nullified her marriage.
Instead she filed under “grievous mental suffering Who knows what he did or she claimed he did to her.
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