Posted on 01/03/2009 7:01:24 AM PST by dascallie
Last night Ed Hale presented the (heretofore, unseen) divorce decree on Plains Radio between Obama's mother and Obama Sr ( her FIRST marriage).
The key bonus in this was the revelation of the specific version of her name in the decree, Stanley Ann D. Obama.
Using this precise name variation ( the abbreviated, initial "D" --instead of 'Dunham', was the cipher that broke open the search), they are claiming to have now located a POE (Port of Entry ) document that Obama's mother provided when she returned to the US with her son--soon after Obama's birth, (allegedly in Kenya).
The POE allegedly includes Obama's birth information/certificate ( British Kenya) as required for entry. Stay tuned for events...see other comments below. -------------------------------------------------- DesertVet Newbie
Posts: 11 Re: Obama-Dunham 1964 DIVORCE DECREE Forthcoming « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2009, 09:39:16 PM » ***********Stanley Ann D. Obama*************
No secret I've been highly skeptical on this whole ordeal. I'm now beginning to think this could very well lead the way to the smoking gun. Until this document she has only been known as "Dunham", no where in public records has Obama's Mothers name read as it does on this divorce decree. I believe the "D" being abreviated has allowed them to locate her records. This has led them to a "port of entry" birth certificate for Barack Obama. She submitted this POE certificate when she came back to the US, and the fact that there is a POE Certificate...proves that he was indeed born out of the country.
This would mean that Obama has never been through Immigration & Naturalization Services in his life, he became a citizen of Indonesia, and never applied for a U.S. passport. If this is the case, then he's not even a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen.
I'm not 100% certain on my assertion of above take on this document issue, but I think it is HIGHLY plausible. I'm still not ready to dance in the streets by any means yet (Yeah, I'm a tough sell). But I am quite intriguied at the moment. Couldn't say that earlier today.
Not to mention he supposedly came to Hawaii (that infamous photo in the airport with Barack Sr and Jr) to visit with his FRIENDS (including Ambercrombie) and Ann tracked him down in the airport while picking up his luggage. That was only time Sr spent with Jr. Sitting in an airport.
And it was to Ambercrombie’s advantage to say he knew Ann. That put him as a link to Obama Jr.
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How about some evidence?
She was enrolled there, but missed the first three weeks of classes. What is your source that she only took correspondence courses? That seems very strange and unlikely to me. This is the University of Washington, in 1961. Correspondence courses? Really?
You have mail.
Neil DID know Ann, though not as well as Barack. Ann was young and not as social as Barack. As a student at the University of Hawaii, I was acquainted (though not close) with both Neil and Barack, and knew Ann’s parents as they lived just down the street from e, though I didn’t know Ann. Neil is not just SAYING he knew Ann. He did.
Otherwise, your post is accurate and insightful.
Actually Ann did attend classes at UW, which even her high school friends were unaware of!
I suspect she was on the run home from Africa after finding out her “husband” was a bigamist, her “marraige” a lie, and his African clan (unlike her black marxist cohorts in the US people’s powe rmovement) would never accept her as a wife or daughter
If you work it right, you can get flight attenedants to help with a baby .... or let the kid marinate in a feces filled diaper for 10 hours or more
I agree. If someone really had that info, why would they announce it to the world until they had it in their hands? It makes no sense. If I found it, I would obtain it first, make lots of copies, then send them everywhere
That's one of the most unusual posts ever addressed to me. You spent sentence after sentence making the case that precise definition of "natural born citizen" has never been defined by the courts, but constantly preach to me to do research into all the scholarship that has, as yet, failed to define precisely what the term means.
The term hasn't been defined by the courts, up to the SCOTUS, so it hasn't been defined.
And would you care to point out to me what rights of citizenship anchor babies are now denied? And they will not be denied the opportunity to run for president, either, as I discussed with another poster in my #313.
The video had some good background, but could lead some to think this question has been answered. It hasn't, and mentioning the Senate resolution on McCain as it was mentioned was very misleading.
I think we might agree that the term has never been precisely defined, so no one can say what it would or would not prevent or allow in 2008 and beyond. But I'd sure put my money on the anchor babies being able to run for president.
Ann was registered at UW in extension courses from August 1961 until she actually attended classes in spring of 1962. She was still in WA state in fall of 1962.
Neil may have known Ann but I think he knew her more so after Obama Sr had left the island. He mentions he would often see Stanley and Jr walking in the area, while Ann was in classes. Which home were Madelyn and Stanley living in which you mention, the one on Kamehameha Ave or the one on University Ave.?
What I find intriguing, is the fact that a fresh set of eyes, and mind, can see something new that others might miss, that's been right under their nose all along. Take the PI for Ed Hale as an example. Did Berg's team make the same type of search that the PI for Hale did? Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. It's highly likely that Berg is sitting on ‘stuff.’ Is part of the stuff, the same document that Ed claims to have knowledge of? Maybe, maybe not.
What I'm most jazzed up about is the potential that still exists in the hunt. A different outfitter, using a different hunter, seems to have found the lair of an elusive quarry. Can the hunter bag the prize? Maybe, maybe not.
I'm really not all that jazzed up about the decree's content, as it was rather anti-climatic. But, where it might lead, is very intriguing. Plus, Ed Hale ‘done good’ in his effort. No doubt about it. I think the sheer lack of appreciation, here, gets my dander up. Berg's a 9-11 truther for crying out loud. It would seem that most here, have suspended judgment on Berg, for his trespasses, in large part due to the greater good Berg contributes to. I think that Ed Hale is due at least that much too.
Is it significant that he posted a forged COLB to game the campaign system and collect hundreds of millions in campaign funds under false pretenses?
Is it significant that he has posted an altered Selective Service document as his 'registration for selective service?
Is it significant that he has sent an army of lawyers and detectives out into the world--literally from Kenya to Hawaii--to hide every scrap of documentation for his adult life?
Is it significant that Obama's handlers have paid an army of liars and twisters to work the Internet chatrooms and places like Freerepublic, to obfuscate and lie where anything arises which would expose the half-black affirmative action poseur?
Is it significant that Obama and his election results are closely tied to criminal activities of ACORN and to domestic terrorists?
Is it significant that Obama has lied openly and repeatedly, with layers of lies on several issues, like Ayers and Wright, to deceive voters?
... For too many, those things are not disqualifiers of an affirmative action candidate. Those folks do not deserve the Constitutional Republic much blood has been shed to protect. To some of us, it is like a waving red sheet in front of an angry bull. This lying piece of excrement needs to be exposed so he can be rejected by We The People. He is not nor is the threatened violence of his scyophants more important than the Constitutional contract which connects We The People to the federal authority granted for governance. This is an extremely serious issue and must be pushed to the limits, NOW.
I just speak as one who knows DC bureaucracy and knows VIPs get away with stuff (like mishandling highly classified materials) many many times. How do you think a CIA chief could get a laptop of classified agency stuff into his personal home and his kid play PC games on it? (John Deutsch) Signing off on a US Senator's rush VIP passport application without background documents (I lost my other
passport, signed, Barack Obama) would be small beans
If the Obama’s do ascend to the Presidnecy, look for Michelle and her racists friends to push for a renaming of the White House into the ‘Residence of the President’ or the ‘Presidency Residency’ in sing-song Jackson fashion.
I guess I don’t express myself well.
My point was that the term “natural born citizen” does not need to be defined. It is already defined. The definition is the definition as it was understood by the framers. I have already said what that was. If you want the Supreme Court to confirm that, great. I hope they do. But let’s be clear. They WON’T be defining the term. That has already been done. The Supreme Court will be, in effect, showing folks like you the dictionary.
Anchor babies have every right of citizenship currently enjoyed by other statutory citizens, and natural born citizens, except one. They can’t be President.
BTW, there is NO legal basis for ‘anchor babies’ citizenship, let alone natural-born citizenship. Even US v. Wong Kim Ark is not on point.
But, you can be sure that any child born in the US to parents in the US with no legal basis whatsoever cannot be said to be born to parents with no competing allegiance or not subject to the jurisdiction of another nation. That would be ludicrous. Ergo, not natural-born.
Often, yes, this time, I don't believe so.
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It would seem that certain people are trying to portray someone else (who has a different opinion than them) as a troll, disruptor and/or Obot, and even several different people coming on to cloud the truth of the issue.
SO..., I would be glad to have an Admin Moderator give me a call, on the phone (write and I’ll send the number). Please do and maybe you can help these guys know that they’re barking up the wrong tree and are inventing conspiracies out of nothing — which is kinda embarassing for them, I would think.
Okay, Admin Moderator, give me a ring... (write first, for the number... :-) ... )
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I’ve been a faithful poster on Free Republic since way back when during the beginning of the Clinton years. And during all that time, I’ve posted exactly the kinds of sentiments which are evident on my Home Page (see my own statement and see my “liberal/conservative test”....). Now, I put those on there so that people could see my starting point and where I was coming from.
I’ve posted from Oklahoma, Texas and Oregon — which would all be evident by IP numbers. And, my IP number can be tracked by the website, so it’s no mystery. It’s currently in Tulsa, OK, which does happen to be in a bastion of conservative people and the “Buckle of the Bible Belt”. My own belief is that conservative positions stem *only* and *basically* from the Bible as the true and infallible word of God (and strictly and *only* from Christianity and *no other* religion, period). “Anything” else that is labeled as conservative, and is not based on that is basically *false* conservatism... (I’m sure there are some who will really love that one.. LOL...)... But, then again, that’s my position here...
So, don’t y’all feel like silly little gooses, making up conspiracy theories and trying to discount ideas from another FReeper when there is no basis in reality? I would think so, otherwise, it would appear that you are merely trying to enforce “group think” or the “hive mentality” of the Borg collective, instead (not good, in other words...).
You may not like the fact that I’m pointing out some *real things* on “what is happening” and why this thing with the Obama Qualification Issue is getting nowhere. Hey, I posted heavily on this issue prior to the election — until I found it was “outvoted” (at the election) by a larger majority. Well..., that’s what happens sometimes. So, face up to reality. And that’w what we’re talking about.
You don’t seem to recognize a basic issue of the fact that no proof has been presented in court to be able to do anything (at least, not to this point in time). You fail to recognize that we’ve had another President in history that has not met the Qualifications of the Constitution to be in office (that’s President Arthur). You fail to recognize the hoax that sucked in a lot of people before the election and afterwards (and is still going on, now...) — which is API, and Chief Editor Korir. It also sucked in Berg (who was going to use the Michelle Obama tape in his court papers). It also sucked in Ed Hale, who was going to sue Korir for breach of contract for not letting him air the tape on his show.
You seem to ignore the message that people are “being played” with this kind of “hoaxing stuff” — by means of what was described as the Dark Socratic methodology that Chief Editor Korir pointed out from his website. AND..., I wouldn’t doubt that it’s *sinister enough* to even believe that some “real Obots” do plant “information” that is false, but seems “true” in order to have people go off on tangents and be discredited later for actually *believing it* — without reserving judgement *unitl* actual proof comes in. It seems that many have *believed* in the same way that those “believed” Chief Editor Korir and he’s basically said he’s fooled them — and “he’s at it once again” (thinking that he can “brazenly fool” the same people *twice* [which is quite amazing!]).
You’ve got a problem with the lack of the recognition of *reality* — in terms of the “real world” and how these things (allegations and court cases and proof and the swearing in of a President, and separation of powers, and so on) — are going to work in a “real world sense”. This doesn’t work — outside — these postings, in the “real world” — which is exactly why a lot of people are “bemoaning” the lack of anything happening.
Now, I’ve proposed doing something, in Oklahoma that a legislator actually has started now — which is to pass a state law vetting the Presidential Candidate in order to make him prove his eligibility, or else he can’t be on the ballot. When the Oklahoma legislature goes into session (soon), I’ll be talking to legislators about this bill. This is the *first* in the nation to go ahead and start this process — which is *reality* and is a lot more productive than conspiracy theories.
Now, if you think there is a conspiracy theory going on here — with me — then pass on your questions to the Admin Moderator — and let’s have him talk to me — then. I think that would work okay — don’t you?
It’s a lot better than acting like silly little gooses...
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And, by the way, my style has always been to post heavily on single threads, while leaving the *vast majority* of them alone (I don’t have that much time, being just a solitary person... LOL...).
Furthermore — there *is* a real life that I do, too — which means that I’ll be gone for a while today and might not even get back to posting until later this evening (maybe even tomorrow) — can you imagine that... :-)
Everybody....
Please keep this thread clear of sarcasm as it deviated last nights discussion of breaking events.
I just started listening to Ed Hales ‘s station in the past few days. At least he PRODUCED DOCUMENTS of import. Give this guy some credit. Go to Plains Radio and see the docs for yourself.
As a word of warning on the deviations.... stay clear of poster “Star Traveler” and do not reply to his posts. They will only take up bandwidth and your/ours time. See this thread for proof ...... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2157797/posts
97 posted on January 3, 2009 9:49:02 AM CST by urtax$@work
I have never seen anyone try so hard to convince people to stop doing something as Star Traveler. You would think they have a personal reason for not wanting people to do anything. I’m not sure I understand why people want to try so hard to STOP investigating something. What’s it to them?
101 posted on January 3, 2009 9:51:17 AM CST by autumnraine
He’s a Obat communication jammer. Psyops inspired. Smokescreener. Drives until YOU drop. This tactic worked in the election like a gem.
They are dispatched everywhere over the web—especially magnetized to eligibility threads or anything that truly has potential threat to exposing Obama.
Warning: he will show up under a different name and an altered modus operandus as well.
108 posted on January 3, 2009 9:56:50 AM CST by dascallie
IMO it has something to do with the Axelturffing described in the following post...WHy the moderators allow one poster to disrupt a thread I don’t know...Hope they are at least aware of it. A large percentage of last night posts were by one poster who kept trying to get folks off topic or say things that weren’t so including starting a revolution.
Comment on Axalltorfing pre 11/04/08 from “anonymous O campaign worker may help explain some people actions on the BC threads:
FROM:
...”We pay people and organize people to go to all the online sites and “play the part of a clinton or mccain supporter who just switched our support for obama”
We do this to stifle your motivation and to destroy your confidence.
We did this the whole primary and it worked.
Sprinkle in mass vote confusion and it becomes bewildering. Most people lose patience and just give up on their support of a candidate and decide to just block out tv, news, websites, etc....”
109 posted on January 3, 2009 9:58:05 AM CST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
I do not think Star Traveler is a single person, if you follow the postings its an almost 24 hour barrage on every forum like this, even I can’t post around the clock, must be a group working shifts.
117 posted on January 3, 2009 10:04:02 AM CST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
His postings went on late into the evening. We(those following the radio broadcast) were hampered in trying to figure out the import of the posted docs.
Finally i gave up and decided to come back this morning to see some distilled version of events and any thoughtful insite like on this thread now.
Too many freepers wanted everything NOW, and lacked patience.
I think more and more information will be understood from the posted docs within the next few days especially when thoughtful discussion occurs here on FR.
PS, go to the docs and /file/save web page for your own future reference. You never know when something will disappear off the web.
122 posted on January 3, 2009 10:09:35 AM CST by urtax$@work
I do not think Star Traveler is a single person, if you follow the postings its an almost 24 hour barrage on every forum like this, even I can’t post around the clock, must be a group working shifts.
Telling that to the moderators.
124 posted on January 3, 2009 10:10:15 AM CST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
As a word of warning on the deviations.... stay clear of poster “Star Traveler”
ROTFLMAO....the posters moniker is one of truth indeed.
207 posted on January 3, 2009 11:13:49 AM CST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
I noticed that last night. Very long, nonsensical posts, equally as long responses(probably by his friends used to divert the attention and disrupt the flow.
I have never seen anyone try so hard to convince people to stop doing something as Star Traveler. You would think they have a personal reason for not wanting people to do anything. I’m not sure I understand why people want to try so hard to STOP investigating something. What’s it to them?
Love of the One, their Messiah, Barack?
Yes, all those apparent acts of deceit are significant, but I'm not betting much of it will ever be irrefutably proven because so many are covering for and protecting Obama. I am hoping that some of it will come out over the next months and years. There is usually someone in a position to leak information who'll decide to do it at some point.
Maybe the National Enquirer will really get on the case like they did with John Edwards (not kidding).
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