Barack Obama, here’s that party you wanted (Here's the left's real agenda)

Austin American Statesman ^

[Grumpybutt]

Within the Article: One member of the party said that at some point health care rationing will have to occur. The largest share of today’s health care dollars are consumed by people over 65, she argued. Not everybody should get every procedure or every technology they want, just because it’s available, she said.

[Erik Latranyi]

Ah yes, get your little groups together so they dedicate themselves to making the argument for rationing healthcare for you.

This is just a means to indoctrinate “from the bottom up” as Obama would say.

[Nailbiter]

ping

[sphinx]

Medical tourism is already on the increase. Democrat health care will likely turn it into a flood. Just one more major industry we will flush abroad.

[ElayneJ]

They will legalize/enforce euthanasia for people with medical problems that don’t fit their “profile”.

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I think we’ve been going down this slippery slope for a while (Terry Schiavo, for example, and widespread abortion, and this is the logical conclusion.) It’s clever for obama to call for these little community groups, because he can claim he’s carrying out the will of the people. Obviously “the people” have no idea what they’re talking about - they should be advocating abolishing the Trial Lawyers Association and the end to frivolous lawsuits that are damaging the health care industry.
We’re in serious trouble in so many ways.

[bert]

On the other hand, there are many octgenarians who believe that they must be admitted to a hospital for every pain that comes in the night. The cost and staff time waste for such fear is tremendous.

The same is true for dialyisis for terminal patients who will be subjected to the procedures when the final outcome is not really in doubt.

[GBA]

Liberalism prides itself for taking something of great value, such as health care in thise case, and making it “free” with the predictable results. Consequently, their message to anyone nearing or over retirement age seems to be: “You will get the health we decide you need. In the mean time, just hurry up and die.”

[Toespi]

It is called spreading the health. We should want to make these sacrifices so everyone can be equally sick. In fact, some should be willing to be injected with a minority blood disease, just to be fair.

[sauropod]

I especially appreciated the part where other people are deciding how much of my income is appropriate to spend on health care (between 10% and 20%). /s

[veritas2002]

Here's where good old American inventiveness, ingenuity and entrepreneurship will come to pass. Let some group of investors find an offshore island where they can set up medical specialty hospitals that cater to those with some money or can buy into an insurance plan. Let them hire accomplished medical personnel to provide state of the art medicine. The medical personnel can ply their trade and not have to pay American taxes on their earning and medical services can be provided outside of restrictive government regulation and bureaucracy. If it's a nice enough island, it could also be considered as a vacation resort for those receiving medical care. Let's face it, the more government gets restrictive as to the things that Americans want, other will find ways to provide it to them. The more government taxes the people, the more ingenious will be the ways to get around having to pay those taxes. Americans love their freedom and will not let a government get in their way.

[MarkL]

As costs sky rocket,the first group to be ‘rationed’ will be the 65 and older crowd quickly followed by the terminally ill and disabled.

This will be interesting to see, since the "over 65" crowd seems to be the number 1 demographic when it comes to "getting out the vote!"

I think that the government may change rather quickly when the voters realize that they're going to be getting the short end of the health care stick.

Mark

[Right Wing Assault]

Not everybody should get every procedure or every technology they want, just because it’s available, she said.

Is this what they mean by universal, free health care?

[Right Wing Assault]

Does a 70-year-old expert in cancer research have more right to health care than a 65-year-old Wal-Mart greeter? We’ll see.

[joshhiggins]

when the voters realize that they're going to be getting the short end of the health care stick.

They will never know, It will be illegal to tell them.

[FrogMom]

65? In Hitlery’s proposal, no one over 55 got “heroic measures”.

[rarestia]

I wonder if he knows it’s against the law to gather for the intent to overthrow the United States.

52 million so-called-Americans already gathered on Nov 2 with the intent to overthrow the US. We have 17 days left until it's gone.

[Durus]

The final outcome isn’t in doubt for any of us.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

I wonder if he knows it’s against the law to gather for the intent to overthrow the United States.

As long as the gathering calls themselves "community organizers," "gay," or "socialist," they should be ok. We must tolerate embrace those.

[khnyny]

You don’t even have to have an island - just medical ships in international waters. Voila.

[HondaCRF450]

Not everybody should get every procedure or every technology they want, just because it’s available, she said. Is this what they mean by universal, free health care?

No one gets every treatment because it's available. That is an absurdity to begin with. Universal health care is another "spreading the wealth" program. Some people get less treatment so others can have a little more. It's no longer health care at all then, it becomes government control over life and death itself.

[DugwayDuke]

Depends on how you define outside the system. HillaryCare forbid individuals paying for anything covered by her healthcare system. Suppose a benefit was covered by HillaryCare but had a very long wait time or perhaps your access to that specific care was denied by the system. If you paid out of pocket, then you were a felon. If a doctor provided that care, then he was a felon.

The whole intent of HillaryCare was not the provision of healthcare but the limitation of cost to the government.

I asked a single payer fanatic once, which he would prefer? A system where everyone got exactly the same care? Or, a system where everyone got at least the same level of care as the first system but some got more care, ie, unequal but greater. He wouldn’t answer the question.