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Pinkerton On UAW: Not Just Wages—Work Rules
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/13/2008 5:20:55 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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1 posted on 12/13/2008 5:20:56 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

UAW work rules as bad as high wages ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 12/13/2008 5:21:50 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“22 Pounds of Fat: UAW’s Work Rules Weighing Down Industry”

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/279636.php


3 posted on 12/13/2008 5:30:06 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Bahbah

Thanks for the excellent link. Union contract: 2,215 pages!


4 posted on 12/13/2008 5:35:39 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

A few months ago a Honda plant in Ohio broke down. Due to the ability for people to work together and not be hampered by restrictive rules the plant was up and running after losing about 100 cars production. If a Big 3 plant broke down the same way it was estimated they would loose 600-800 cars that could have been produced.


5 posted on 12/13/2008 5:43:02 PM PST by Harley (Life is Tough, But It's a Lot Tougher When You're a Liberal.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Long, long ago, some of my high school acquaintences went to work for American Motors in Milwaukee. They bragged about how they could drink all night and sleep in the bathrooms at the plant all day and management couldn’t touch them. Their shop steward protected them.

So this is what we have with the auto unions. But there is no American Motors any longer.


6 posted on 12/13/2008 5:49:31 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Union contract: 2,215 pages!

That can be a double edged sword for the union.

The one line that I bet is missing.....

"The company retains exclusive right to manage its business."

This is the most important line that management can point to in consolidating the job classifications. However, in general it is not the production guys who are the most troublesome. It's the trades, plumber, carpenter, electrician, machine repair, millwright.

The trades work 40 hours during the week and then work mountains of O/T on the weekends and holidays doing PM and fixing repairs that were cobbled to keep the line running.

7 posted on 12/13/2008 5:53:21 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Unions don’t have work rules. They have don’t work rules.

Every union member goes to work thinking “how long can I not work today’ How can I screw the company today.”


8 posted on 12/13/2008 5:58:02 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of wafarin (it's working))
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There is a name for this “adding unnecessary jobs” B.S.! It’s called “featherbedding”. This is the same technique unions used to wreck the railroad industry in this country.

Sorry (not really), I have little to no sympathy for labor unions in this country. They bear primary responsibility for pricing more than one of our major industries out of business.


9 posted on 12/13/2008 6:00:11 PM PST by singfreedom
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To: singfreedom
It’s called “featherbedding”. This is the same technique unions used to wreck the railroad industry in this country.

I know. My father was a fireman for the railroad. When they went to diesel, he hated not being of use, although he could have, and gotten paid for it, but at a somewhat advanced age, he studied for his engineers' exam and passed handily. He wanted to work for his paycheck, not just collect it.

10 posted on 12/13/2008 6:07:49 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Bahbah
So this is what we have with the auto unions. But there is no American Motors any longer.

Someone wiser than I once told me that you should always ask yourself whether you are really earning the money you make. If not, then you might want to think about getting another job.

11 posted on 12/13/2008 6:37:27 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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A wise person indeed. Could the entire Congress ask itself that question and answer it honestly?


12 posted on 12/13/2008 6:42:03 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Bahbah

I can vividly recall reading an article in Business Week magazine in the 70’s about a Ford engine casting plant located in Birmingham, AL. The workers went on strike and no agreement was on the horizon. Ford told the workers that if they refused Ford’s final offer, then Ford would shut the plant down and cast the engine blocks outside the U. S. The union rejected Ford’s offer and the plant was shut down.

It wasn’t about the welfare of the workers, but the jeopardy that Ford presented to the union brass. The workers lost their jobs, but the union brass just moved on to another location.


13 posted on 12/13/2008 6:48:01 PM PST by Saltmeat
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The workers lost their jobs, but the union brass just moved on to another location.

No one asked Gettlefinger what his annual salary is. No one.

14 posted on 12/13/2008 6:52:25 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: bert

Not every union member works like that! That is an awful broad brush you have there! My Dh is union but now UAW and yes there are a lot of people who do work like that but there are also folks who work just like anyone else.


15 posted on 12/13/2008 6:54:36 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Ouderkirk
The trades work 40 hours during the week and then work mountains of O/T on the weekends and holidays doing PM and fixing repairs that were cobbled to keep the line running.

And that's a bad thing???

16 posted on 12/13/2008 7:15:00 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sure. That is why the comparison between Dems and unions can be made so easily. They divide people into groups so each one can be catered to or fought against.


17 posted on 12/13/2008 7:52:06 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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Yeah, it’s the same with the union railroad workers. It’s ridiculous.


18 posted on 12/13/2008 9:23:16 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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Yeah, it’s the same with the union railroad workers.

A great example: I was on the Coastal NJ Trainsit line to New York on Friday. Pulling up to the Elizabeth station I spotted two guys who were throwing salt or something down to melt the ice from the recent storm. Ahead of them walked some guy with a hand held radio and trailing them was a guy with a yellow vest and stop sign in his hand.

Four employees - two of whom were actually working - the other two who were just walking. Is that an efficient use of man power and time? And - all four union members collecting a paycheck subsidized by tax payers.

19 posted on 12/13/2008 10:31:54 PM PST by capydick ("History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid".)
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To: singfreedom

The unions are now screaming at the Senators who voted against the bailout, ha they want to break the unions, and support foreign automakers. These are not people who should have any say in what goes on. They are totally self-serving and know nothing about economics.

Unions have artificially raised wages and costs of doing business beyond a gradual gain that would be seen in a pure capitalist economy. Now they want Union Check Cards. Please. If they try that crap at my plant, I will shut down and they don’t get jack. I doubt any of my employees would agree to sign on board knowing full well what my reaction will be.

Death to the unions, and then do away with the minimum wages, which is an artificial number put in place as a result of non-market driven union wages.


20 posted on 12/14/2008 11:30:03 AM PST by ritewingwarrior (Just say No.)
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