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Supreme Court to Uphold or Ignore the Constitution?
Capitol Hill ^ | Dec. 7, 2008 | JB Williams

Posted on 12/07/2008 11:14:58 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican

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To: trumandogz
I'm dying to hear this rationale???

A fraudulent candidate whose birth place and entire past is under lock and key can be sworn into office by a Supreme Court that refuses to view his constitutional requirements and you think this is “upholding the constitution?”

I'm dying to hear this fairy tale... lets hear your logic?

201 posted on 12/07/2008 2:34:32 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: shadowgovernment
very dangerous days ahead. I really hope I am wrong.

Everyone I know is stocking up. Talked to my local store and ammo is flying off the shelves, they can't keep it stocked. And at a BassPro shop, similar story. Men and women buying guns so fast they're running out of certain brands. And ammo being bought in large quantities. Ammo reloaders and supplies, too. I'm picking up more ammo this week.

If anything happens I'll pick up and head to my son's home.

202 posted on 12/07/2008 2:35:05 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (The USofA, Conservative, Traditional, Constitutional , , , now it's up to the SCOTUSofA.)
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To: shadowgovernment

WHAT????


203 posted on 12/07/2008 2:37:42 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: shadowgovernment
“We are witnessing a political coup.” >>>>>>................ BINGO. can’t prove it , but sure looks like a plan came together in 90 days..Sept - Nov 2008.

Then let's take it one step further. I think that is entirely true, and I also believe (hope) that Bush and the DOJ saw it coming together as well. I haven't mentioned this much, but I believe the trillions of dollars that were being handed out are: a) blackmail payoffs, or b) hiding money to buy our way back out of this financial mess.

So what that means (hopefully) is that Bush and DOJ are going after the Obama machine with criminal lawsuits at some point for running a fraudlent election - Acorn, illegal donations, turning off credit card security, etc..

Think about one thing - where has Obama been in the last 2-3 weeks - couple of press confernces, MTP today, but that's all. What about Biden, Rahm Emmanuel, Pelosi, and the rest of them. They were going to start governing (ruling) immediately after the election. They are nowhere to be seen!

Then add on top of that the army being deployed to Northern Command with 20,000 troops to "quell riots and civil unrest". Obama is in trouble, and it's not only the birth certificate.
204 posted on 12/07/2008 2:38:04 PM PST by Free America52 (I just want it to be the way it always has been.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Here’s a 9 part radio interview on Saturday with Leo Donfrio about his case. Worth listening to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8L-rUwNj38&feature=related

(Ignore the backwaters-sounding radio commentator - it’s truly unfortunate that guys that sound like they just stepped out of a bayou are mouthpieces for conservatives).


205 posted on 12/07/2008 2:40:04 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: stevie_d_64

Amen!


206 posted on 12/07/2008 2:43:28 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: panthermom

“It is a travesty that the Berg case was disregarded for lack of merit. We are a government of the people. A citizen should have the standing to make sure a person seeking the Presidency is eligible.”

I agree a citizen should have standing, but have learned a lot about how these cases vary and noticed the ones with standing are claims against Secs.of State, not Obama himself like Berg did in his case. Also going on the citizen status at birth as Leo has done might have more merit in the Justices’ opinions. Leo does not ask for the birth certificate to be released. He is basing his case on Obama’s statements as to where he was born.


207 posted on 12/07/2008 2:44:48 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Eye of Unk
"I am temporarily going to play devils advocate here."

You really didn't have to do that. You are becoming part of the problem rather than being part of the solution.

208 posted on 12/07/2008 2:53:44 PM PST by An Old Man
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Why is it that, whenever someone disagrees with a select few, they are immediately branded a troll? Do you not welcome open discussion here? I am new here, and at first I felt like I had found a group of long lost friends. But I have been afraid to post unless I completely agree with the vast majority, because I don’t want to be called names.


210 posted on 12/07/2008 2:55:35 PM PST by tisonlyi
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To: bronxboy
Exactly how can you tell if a birth certificate is a fraud? They all look different.

It's not the actual, original, long-form, PAPER birth certificate issued at the date and time of birth, in the hospital and geographical location where that birth occurred, witnessed and signed by the doctor, and the hospital, and fully certified by the ruling government authority, that is a "fraud."

Not even close.

HOWEVER, what IS a fraud, is the President-"Not Elect" who has refused to show, for nearly two years, HIS actual, genuine, original, long-form, PAPER birth certificate that legally attests to the time and location of birth. It is this same person, who has already spent $1,000,000 of campaign contributions on lawyers and legal fees to BLOCK the courts from ever seeing it, and who has already acted above the law by failing to comply with it, that posts ON THE INTERNET, not only a totally useless image that cannot be used as proof of being a natural-born US citizen, in any court in America, EVEN if that image, put on the Internet only, had been made from his real original birth certificate by a $65,000 drum scanner -- the best in the world -- but is also an image that was allegedly copied from only a short-form, Certification of Live Birth, a document that anyone living in Hawaii can get, at any time, and at any age, without providing any proof whatsoever as to where and when they were born . So, as hard as it is to believe, instead of showing even a real copy of this ridiculously easy to get, "Certification of Live Birth," the Man who fancies himself an "Agent of Change," OLNY POSTS a crappy-looking, irrefutably "Photoshopped" IMAGE that was msde to look like, what is, in effect, a NONEXISTENT document. This BOGUS DOCUMENT IMAGE was created SOLELY to fool people, like yourself, into believing that he really was born in Hawaii, and for him to AVOID having to ever show his real, original, paper birth certificate as proof of his claim, which, in spite of its visual variations,is both structurally and functionally equivalent to ANY and ALL, actual, original, long-form, paper birth certificates, issued by any State or US territory, ever this they began printing them as evidence of origin, ta paper document that hundreds of millions of Americans have already shown on more than one occassion, without a single one of them, so much as batting an eye in protest.

What is also a fraud, is this, same President-"Not Elect", who, with the help of his many accomplices, such as his Campaign and Factcheck/Annenberg, and under a total media blackout by the MSM, and with the help of a total whitewash and cover-up by every Leftist writer and publisher, did conspire to create and distribute, a false identification document, regardless of its actual form, SPECIFICALLY, AND WITH MALICE AFORETHOUGHT, to deceive the American public into believing that he is a natural-born American, Constitutionally qualified to be President, and to blindly cast their votes for that same person.

IF THAT WAS NOT ENOUGH, that same, bogus, forged image has been used as a political and social sledgehammer to bludgeon any true American and US citizen, who has the nerve to speak out in defense of the Constitution, which is the Law of the Land, and to voice their opposition to allowing a TOTAL FRAUD to waltz his way into the White House, using whatever means that money and power can buy, regardless of whether these means and actions are technically illegal as much as they are morally reprehensible.

Or, something to that effect.

212 posted on 12/07/2008 2:58:43 PM PST by Polarik (quote)
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To: Hardastarboard

In theory at least the Justices could be impeached could they not? should have happened back in 1960s


213 posted on 12/07/2008 3:06:43 PM PST by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

SNL thinks it was George Soros.


214 posted on 12/07/2008 3:06:47 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Polarik

How to tell a fake from a real one. This is a good start.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p—yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg


215 posted on 12/07/2008 3:06:50 PM PST by Free America52 (I just want it to be the way it always has been.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

First of all, I believe Obama was born in Hawaii and is thus a natural born citizen.

Second, I know that Chief Justice Roberts and Scaila, Thomas and Alito are Strict Constructionists and will uphold the Constitution.

Now, if you have reason to believe that Roberts and Scaila, Thomas and Alito are not Strict Constructionists, I would like to know your reason why you believe that.

If you believe that Obama was born in Kenya, then you need to find his DS-1350 that recorded that birth. If there were an Obama DS-1350 it would be at the State Department along with my DS-1350.

Of course, you could also get a job with a State Department contractor and like other people take a peek into Obama’s Passport file. That Passport file will show the place where he was born.

And no one that looked at Obama’s Passport or Passport File has said that the document lists his place of birth as Kenya.


216 posted on 12/07/2008 3:07:16 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Free America52

Well I must admit that that very thought crossed my mind more than once.

But I have had a difficult time listening to them talk about meaningless (to me) topics with this story boiling over.

I and others have been fighting the spin doctors that show up here and tell us to be good republicans and stop whining about our loss.

Let’s hope you are correct.


217 posted on 12/07/2008 3:11:34 PM PST by stockpirate (Democrat Syndrome, psychological disorder that makes victims loyal to their abusers)
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To: Windflier
As I was wrapping supper in tin foil to put in the oven, I wondered....

Could men in black suits with badges have visited the talk host....Let them know there was an investigation going on and ask them to step back.....

IIRC something similar to that happened during WWII....Even NYT cooperated.....This could be that level of national security.....

Alright, I'll wrap the rest around the roast.

218 posted on 12/07/2008 3:15:31 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: bronxboy

You really are stuck on stupid fella. Now you just used a Canadian Parlimentary descriptive word. You don’t have a “Loyal Opposition”!! Sheesh. You are clearly an Obama supporter and you just keep hitting “repeat” of all your pet excuses whether they make sense or not and they don’t. !! CO


219 posted on 12/07/2008 3:26:01 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: bronxboy
He has provided a copy online. I saw it with my own eyes.

Yes, but were you looking through the eyes of a professional digital media examiner, or through the eyes of a consumer?

You need to catch up. The docs you saw online have been professionally debunked and are proven forgeries.

220 posted on 12/07/2008 3:40:26 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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