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What's with Ben Stein?

Posted on 12/06/2008 3:09:54 PM PST by EveningStar

What's with Ben Stein, anyway? He's been acting a bit goofy for a while now, but what he said yesterday makes me wonder if he's lost it.

Michael Medved had Stein on his show yesterday. Ben made several pronouncements:

-- He supports the bailout. Moreover, he would bail out states if needed.

-- He was vehemently opposed to the Sarah Palin pick for VP. I checked out a past YouTube video where he was quite vitriolic about it.

-- He's for taxing the rich at a higher rate. OK. I already knew about this. But, WTFF???

No. I don't think he supported Obama in the election At least I hope not.


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To: EveningStar
I listened to Ben Stein on the Medved show the other day and he sounded like an idiot. He actually claimed the treasury could just print money and that it would have no inflationary affect on our currency. He even made some reference to it being like magic. I used to have respect for the man's intellect. I figured he had deluded himself a bit with the creationism, but I still gave him the benefit of the doubt, but after hearing him yesterday it's gone. Apparently he never really figured out that there's no such thing as a free lunch.
41 posted on 12/06/2008 4:05:51 PM PST by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: jobim
2) Evolution has yet to explain first sources,

Darwin gave us the Origin of Species, not the Origin of Life.

and when one of the major thinkers in this camp (Dawkins) attempted to explain the beginning, he speculated on an advanced alien species who may have "seeded" our world to create that first cell

Exogenesis / Panspermia. It's one of the possible explanations for the origin of life on Earth. It, however, doesn't solve the actual problem... since it doesn't explain where the aliens came from.

Saying "God Did It!" doesn't explain anything.

If I remember correctly: Dawkins doesn't support panspermia (or exogenesis), he was just citing it as a possible explanation.

He also shows how the application of evolution can, and did, lead to Naziism and the holocaust, eugenics, and now abortion.

Oy vey.

Not running through that minefield. :)

42 posted on 12/06/2008 4:10:10 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: elmer fudd

Doh! Used an “i” instead of a “p” and ended up with italics instead of a new paragraph.


43 posted on 12/06/2008 4:10:26 PM PST by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: netmilsmom
And please understand that the evolutionists have defined Intelligent Design as Creationism

The Evolution of the "Intelligent Design" textbook Of Pandas and People


44 posted on 12/06/2008 4:13:58 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Birdwatcher
How about we just say “I don’t know”

Both Creationists and Evolutionists are just guessing.

45 posted on 12/06/2008 4:20:55 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Oztrich Boy
They changed "creationists" to "design proponents" -- but they goofed in one place and "creationists" became "cdesign proponentsists" thereby giving away the whole sordid scheme.

And then folks try to tell us that intelligent design is science. This is just more evidence that intelligent design is creationism with the serial numbers filed off in an attempt to fool school boards and the courts.

46 posted on 12/06/2008 4:24:59 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: EveningStar

Ben Stein is the reason we stopped our American Spectator subscription years ago.


47 posted on 12/06/2008 4:25:48 PM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: CE2949BB

I don’t think Stein actually supports Creationism or ID personally. What his fild did was to expose some rather - uh, er - embarrassing problems with boilerplate orthodoxy - not to mention some of the colorful personalities of leading evolutionists.


48 posted on 12/06/2008 4:26:29 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ($750 billion is nothing - surrender your children, wealth and gold fillings now to avoid the rush.)
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To: EveningStar

Ben has gone liberal. His column in the NewMax magazine brags up obama (he voted for him) but said nothing positive. The only reason I could see that he voted for him was his color. He sounded just like the libs who say he is the One.


49 posted on 12/06/2008 4:35:30 PM PST by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: EveningStar
Maybe Ben has assumed his "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" personna:

"Bueller?.......Bueller?......Beuller?....."

50 posted on 12/06/2008 4:44:03 PM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: taxesareforever

He voted for Obama??? Do you have a link? I gotta read this.


51 posted on 12/06/2008 4:44:20 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

He’s been hanging out with his BFF Al Franken too long and lost his damn mind.


52 posted on 12/06/2008 4:54:19 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: CE2949BB

I love Ben Stein but I have to admit he has gone nuts. I hope things will go well for him.


53 posted on 12/06/2008 5:03:34 PM PST by Marylander (What next?)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I understand where you are coming from, in the idea that Intelligent Design was usurped for that textbook, but now we must use our heads in order to prevent the idea that God designed the universe will not be allowed at all in our classrooms.

The Catholics teach Intelligent Design. Our Lord designed everything, which then evolved accordingly.

If one exlusively calls “Intelligent Design” creationism, we exclude any inclusion of God. And the movie proved that no University will allow this.

Instead of defining “Intelligent Design” as creationism, how about we correct what it really is. An intelligent being, Our Lord and creator, designed the world to be as it is. This won’t please the NEA much but it is needed. This way, you won’t have non-scientific Christians fighting Christian scientist.


54 posted on 12/06/2008 5:04:06 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: CE2949BB
Should ID proponents be silenced in academia, as Stein contends is happening? Should there exist, does there exist, this "Berlin Wall" of demarcation?

My Catholic faith leaves open the possibility for evolution, big bang, or however God decided to make us come about. But why the antagonism to the ID folks? It's not my arena, so I genuinely wonder what is happening in the academic world of science.
55 posted on 12/06/2008 5:05:18 PM PST by jobim
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To: EveningStar
As to the bailout, Stein apparently embraces the view of many economists that, in a financial crisis, government must pump out liquidity to prevent structural damage and then clean up the mess later.

As to Palin, Stein sees her as a sign that the GOP embraces evangelical social conservatism without room for those with divergent views.

As to taxing the rich heavily, Stein sees it as a matter of social equity.

I disagree with Stein on all these things, but those are his reasons.

56 posted on 12/06/2008 5:08:04 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: EveningStar
"He voted for Obama??? Do you have a link? I gotta read this."

Which one is he on, "Forbes on Fox"? He said he did not vote for Hussein. In the same breath he said he was for bailing out the Little Three and lots of government spending. He is not the Ben Stein I knew.

yitbos

57 posted on 12/06/2008 5:08:04 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: Steve Van Doorn

>>How about we just say “I don’t know”

Both Creationists and Evolutionists are just guessing. <<

Now stop that. You’re not allowed to make sense on one of these threads. Choose sides or get out /s/


58 posted on 12/06/2008 5:08:36 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: EveningStar

“No. I don’t think he supported Obama in the election At least I hope not.”

IIRC, He gave $$ to the Obammy campaign.


59 posted on 12/06/2008 5:13:02 PM PST by dbacks (God help the USA.)
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To: EveningStar

I’ve noticed from the very beginning, those who are most “vitriolic” about Sarah Palin tend to be well ... gay.

Is Ben Stein hiding something from us? Inquiring minds want to know.

Ben?... Ben?... Ben?...


60 posted on 12/06/2008 5:19:29 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Free Trade" = Fire Americans. Buy another company then fire more Americans.)
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