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Obama May Cancel Space Shuttle Replacement
FoxNews.com ^ | Monday, December 01, 2008 | Brian Berger

Posted on 12/01/2008 2:22:01 PM PST by Joiseydude

WASHINGTON — U.S. President-elect Barack Obama's NASA transition team is asking U.S. space agency officials to quantify how much money could be saved by canceling the Ares 1 rocket and scaling back the Orion Crew Exploration Vehicle next year.

Obama pledged during his campaign to inject an additional $2 billion into NASA aimed in part at narrowing the gap between the space shuttle's retirement and the introduction of a successor system.

While NASA Administrator Mike Griffin and his senior managers are adamant that Ares and Orion are the right vehicles to fill that role, Obama did not endorse either system by name during his campaign.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; ares; ares1; bho2008; bhonasa; constellation; federalspending; nasa; orion
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“They threw them away.”
If true, makes me very sick.
Saturn V was one of the most beautiful machines ever built.
Any links or references Mr. Jeeves?


81 posted on 12/01/2008 4:13:37 PM PST by IAMIUBU
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To: 4rcane
"...lets go for the space elevator instead. This would cut cost down way better than space shuttles..."

Uh, you need heavy lift to orbit capability to build the elevator.

82 posted on 12/01/2008 4:16:46 PM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: IAMIUBU
Any links or references Mr. Jeeves?

Google reveals nothing but some unofficial denials, but the story was widely reported a few years ago.

83 posted on 12/01/2008 4:20:28 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: 4rcane

Remember reading about that principle years ago .

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa041702a.htm


84 posted on 12/01/2008 4:22:01 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: Nonstatist

“What do you think the NASA budget is?? 200 Billion a year? 150 billion a year?? Heh?

Try 15 billion a year..”

Yup. The One and the rest of the libs will spend trillions on every social program they can think of. But 15 billion for the space program is too much for them. The new masters of space will be China. While they will be sending people to the Moon and Mars, we will well on our way to third world status.


85 posted on 12/01/2008 4:23:25 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: IAMIUBU

http://www.space.com/news/spacehistory/saturn_five_000313.html

Apparently, not true.


86 posted on 12/01/2008 4:32:15 PM PST by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: kc8ukw
I think conservatives are even more likely to support government funding of a space program than liberals.

Conservatives are much more intelligent and cognizant of their place in the grand scheme.

It also helps that Conservatives do not perceive every national endeavor as a public works program to be started and stopped at the whim of the social planner!

87 posted on 12/01/2008 4:45:09 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Arguendo
It creates jobs on Urf, and provides research for improved life here.
Sounds like a pretty socialist justification to me.

As long as the technology is immediately ported to entrepreneurs and industry, why not? More and more space companies are appearing thanks in part to original research as NACA and NASA.

88 posted on 12/01/2008 6:39:16 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: timestax

bttt


89 posted on 12/01/2008 6:59:14 PM PST by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: KevinDavis

ping


90 posted on 12/01/2008 7:01:12 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: markman46; AntiKev; wastedyears; ALOHA RONNIE; RightWhale; anymouse; Brett66; SunkenCiv; ...
I'm not surprised one bit..


91 posted on 12/01/2008 7:07:28 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: Joiseydude
More dollars to the community streets , where it matters. Enough of this pie in the sky stuff. We know where the votes come from.( S/off)
92 posted on 12/01/2008 7:33:09 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: TheWasteLand
One thing I’ve never understood is why conservatives are more supportive of space exploration than liberals.

We're looking for a place to get away from the liberals.


Or a place to send Liberals.
93 posted on 12/01/2008 7:35:06 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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To: timestax

btt


94 posted on 12/02/2008 7:15:30 AM PST by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: Joiseydude

This is what happens when we as a nation went from ‘gazing at the stars with wonder’ to ‘dancing with the stars’.


95 posted on 12/02/2008 7:17:42 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Nonstatist
O Zero is going after NASA because they are not one of "his" special interest groups.

Or it could be that W's Mission to Mars is a really bad idea.

96 posted on 12/02/2008 7:26:29 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: KevinDavis

Depressing dude...we need private sector achievements and R&D now more than ever.


97 posted on 12/02/2008 9:41:58 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Moonman62; All

No..


98 posted on 12/02/2008 10:14:35 AM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace; All

Provided that Obama allows private space development..


99 posted on 12/02/2008 10:15:29 AM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: rigelkentaurus

“in little more than 100 years, we went from horses, to cars, to prop planes, to jets, to landing on the moon.”

well it would be remarkable if we don’t slip even further behind over the next 4 years. But we do have to think for the future. We need to

1) have permanent R&D tax credits.

2) restructure the tax code so that it doesn’t punish productive people or reward debt

3) have a national effort to push kids to be the best in math and science. Forget the the debate between private vs public schools or trying to getting the govt to evaluate states, school districts, teachers and curriculum.
Go directly to the kids and parents, reward them for achievement on voluntary standardized tests and they will do what it takes to win.

4) have more prizes like the darpa robot car challenge

5) end the make-work local infrastructure projects that fill up potholes with concrete or building porky bridges to nowhere. Focus on 2 big things: a high speed freight rail system and universal broadband. Ideally wire everything with fiber optics. Look at Japan and South korea.

6) we’ll need more nuke plants. Liberals will have to concede that global warming will no longer be an issue, conservatives want energy independence from OPEC (ANWR and offshore drilling will not shield us from global oil prices!) but in any event we’re going to need more electricity for more tech.

if we can do all that, we will have the foundation for future space exploration.


100 posted on 12/02/2008 12:02:26 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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