The nation USA is not a nation of LAW, but one ruled by princes..Kings of media. This will be a TEST to see who now RULES.
Is this the reason for the facial *TIC*?
Nobody goes to this much trouble to hide something unless it would incriminate, or embarass them...nobody.
Good place to run an ad.
AOL is usually very liberal. I have been surprised at their relative fairness over the past month or so.
“The election may be over..” Oh no it is not. AOL and O need to learn the names of attorneys and Jutsices Donofrio, Vieira, Alito, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and maybe Kennedy.
From Mr. Edwin Vieira’s column posted today. He has a BS, MS, JD and PhD from Harvard and 30 years in Constitutional law. Any law Obama signs will be void. Any criminal defendant in any case where O signed a law will be able to demand his birth certificate and have forensic expert determine if Obama is a fraud.
“Mr. Vieira explained although legal standing is difficult to get around in Federal courts, the document could be produced in any criminal cases stemming from legislation passed in the Obama administration.”
“Let’s assume that an Obama administration passes some of these controversial pieces of legislation he has been promising to go for, like the FOCA (Freedom of Choice) Act,” said Mr. Vieira. “I would assume that some of those surely will have some severe civil or criminal penalties attached to them for violation. You are now the criminal defendant under this statute, which was passed by an Obama Congress and signed by President Obama. Your defense is that is not a statute because Mr. Obama is not the president. You now have a right and I have never heard this challenged, to subpoena in a criminal case, anyone who has relevant evidence relating to your defenses. And you can subpoena them duces tecum, meaning ‘you shall bring with you the documents.’ “
Such a criminal defense would enable the defendant to subpoena any person to testify in court and any person to bring evidence in their possession to the court.
Further, records could be subpoenaed directly, in the case of a birth certificate. Once the record could be subpoenaed, the birth certificate could be examined by forensic experts, who would then be able to testify to the document’s veracity as expert witnesses. Any movement by the judges to make a special exception to the president in a criminal case would hurt the legitimacy of that presidential administration.
“I can’t believe I’m the only lawyer who would think of this,” said Mr. Vieira. “I think any criminal lawyer defending against one of these politically charged statutes is going to come up with this. That means it will never go away until that document is laid down on the table and people say, ‘yes, there it is.’ And therefore they’re caught. If people keep challenging this and the judges out of fear keep saying ‘no, go to jail, go to jail, go to jail’ then that’s the end of the Obama administration’s legitimacy. On the other hand if they open the file and it’s not there, then that’s really the end of the administration’s legitimacy.”
This is good but what about TODAY being the day that Obama has to put up or shut up for Berg’s case or was it Martin’s?
It’s December 1!
"The Hawaii Dept of Health won't confirm Obama's assertion that you were born in Hawaii (the director of Hawaii's Department of Health on Oct. 31 personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.)"
saved—but what’s the point....
Just posted this on another thread, sometimes you just need to vent.
South Carolina officials have been asked who verified eligibility and what standard of proof was presented. That is a simple request and they are making some noise that they are going to demand proof, we shall see.
South Carolina Requirements
“The written certification required by this section must contain a statement that each certified candidate meets, or will meet by the time of the general election, or as otherwise required by law, the qualifications in the United States Constitution, statutory law, and party rules to participate in the presidential preference primary for which he has filed. Political parties must not certify any candidate who does not or will not by the time of the general election meet the qualifications in the United States Constitution, statutory law, and party rules for the presidential preference primary for which the candidate desires to file, and such candidate’s name must not be placed on a primary ballot.”
Just consider this a political ALAMO. This, even if we lose, could turn into a rallying cry. Travis couldn’t be assured that his stand wouldn’t be dismissed and forgotten. This is shown by his words “yet I am determined to perish in the defense of this place, and my bones shall reproach my country for her neglect”. These are the men that we are so indebted to, and many can’t even demand that a presidential candidate show that he is eligible for the office
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No more, please, no more, I am about to leave FR if this stuff keeps getting posted....
the way i understand it is- at the time, you didn't even need to be born in Hawaii to get a Hawaiian birth certificate. i want to know the name of the HOSPITAL he was born in, and see THEIR records!!!