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Obama Birth Certificate Rears Its Head - Again
AOL ^ | 12/1/08 | Liza Porteus Viana

Posted on 12/01/2008 1:54:10 PM PST by pissant

The election may be over, but not the controversy.

Just when you thought the flap over the genuineness of Barack Obama's birth certificate was all said and done, in comes the We The People Foundation.

The group purchases a full-page ad in The Chicago Tribune - the newspaper of the president-elect's hometown - today and Wednesday, called "Open Letter to Mr. Obama." It's described by the foundation as a "formal Petition for a Redress (Remedy) for the alleged violation of the 'natural born citizen' clause of the Constitution of the United States of America."

Click here to view the ad.

"Mr. Obama is respectfully requested to direct the Hawaiian officials to provide access to his original birth certificate on December 5-7 by our team of forensic scientists, and to provide additional documentary evidence establishing his citizenship status prior to our Washington, D.C. press conference on December 8," the foundation says. PolitiFact has said it has no reason to doubt the authenticity of the document.

Among other complaints, the foundation charges:

(Excerpt) Read more at news.aol.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; larrysinclarislover; obama
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Time to ratchet up the pressure on the marxist....
1 posted on 12/01/2008 1:54:11 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

The nation USA is not a nation of LAW, but one ruled by princes..Kings of media. This will be a TEST to see who now RULES.


2 posted on 12/01/2008 1:55:20 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: pissant

Is this the reason for the facial *TIC*?


3 posted on 12/01/2008 1:59:50 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek

Either that or he caught something from his tryst with Larry Sinclair.


4 posted on 12/01/2008 2:00:52 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Nobody goes to this much trouble to hide something unless it would incriminate, or embarass them...nobody.


5 posted on 12/01/2008 2:01:00 PM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of 0bamanation.)
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To: wolfcreek

Nah...He is a professional liar. The tic was from having to bend over for Nancy P and make Hitlery the SecState today.


6 posted on 12/01/2008 2:01:19 PM PST by IrishPennant (He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.)
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To: pissant

Parasites cause TICS.


7 posted on 12/01/2008 2:02:42 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: pissant
Growing legs.
The advert worked.

Obama citizen
8 posted on 12/01/2008 2:02:58 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: FrankR

Agreed. Innocent people don’t spend $1 million to avoid showing a $12 birth certificate.


9 posted on 12/01/2008 2:04:02 PM PST by nufsed (Privatize 2 prisons)
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To: pissant

Good place to run an ad.

AOL is usually very liberal. I have been surprised at their relative fairness over the past month or so.


10 posted on 12/01/2008 2:06:54 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: pissant

“The election may be over..” Oh no it is not. AOL and O need to learn the names of attorneys and Jutsices Donofrio, Vieira, Alito, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and maybe Kennedy.

From Mr. Edwin Vieira’s column posted today. He has a BS, MS, JD and PhD from Harvard and 30 years in Constitutional law. Any law Obama signs will be void. Any criminal defendant in any case where O signed a law will be able to demand his birth certificate and have forensic expert determine if Obama is a fraud.

“Mr. Vieira explained although legal standing is difficult to get around in Federal courts, the document could be produced in any criminal cases stemming from legislation passed in the Obama administration.”

“Let’s assume that an Obama administration passes some of these controversial pieces of legislation he has been promising to go for, like the FOCA (Freedom of Choice) Act,” said Mr. Vieira. “I would assume that some of those surely will have some severe civil or criminal penalties attached to them for violation. You are now the criminal defendant under this statute, which was passed by an Obama Congress and signed by President Obama. Your defense is that is not a statute because Mr. Obama is not the president. You now have a right and I have never heard this challenged, to subpoena in a criminal case, anyone who has relevant evidence relating to your defenses. And you can subpoena them duces tecum, meaning ‘you shall bring with you the documents.’ “

Such a criminal defense would enable the defendant to subpoena any person to testify in court and any person to bring evidence in their possession to the court.

Further, records could be subpoenaed directly, in the case of a birth certificate. Once the record could be subpoenaed, the birth certificate could be examined by forensic experts, who would then be able to testify to the document’s veracity as expert witnesses. Any movement by the judges to make a special exception to the president in a criminal case would hurt the legitimacy of that presidential administration.

“I can’t believe I’m the only lawyer who would think of this,” said Mr. Vieira. “I think any criminal lawyer defending against one of these politically charged statutes is going to come up with this. That means it will never go away until that document is laid down on the table and people say, ‘yes, there it is.’ And therefore they’re caught. If people keep challenging this and the judges out of fear keep saying ‘no, go to jail, go to jail, go to jail’ then that’s the end of the Obama administration’s legitimacy. On the other hand if they open the file and it’s not there, then that’s really the end of the administration’s legitimacy.”


11 posted on 12/01/2008 2:08:01 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: FrankR

Ever consider that he his doing it to simply wind his opponents up? Simply laughing at all those trying to prove he is not entitled to be President? I expect the last laugh will be with Obama when someone finally gets through the legal loops to view the certificate.


13 posted on 12/01/2008 2:09:32 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: pissant

This is good but what about TODAY being the day that Obama has to put up or shut up for Berg’s case or was it Martin’s?

It’s December 1!


14 posted on 12/01/2008 2:11:33 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated ([http://www.americanphonic.com -- mp3] [http://www.foundingfathers/info//federalistpapers/])
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To: Tommyjo

The election is over...what do we have to lose?

Besides, this is costing him money.


16 posted on 12/01/2008 2:13:11 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: pissant
over and over and over the news media shows they are idiots:

"The Hawaii Dept of Health won't confirm Obama's assertion that you were born in Hawaii (the director of Hawaii's Department of Health on Oct. 31 personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.)"

17 posted on 12/01/2008 2:13:31 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: wolfcreek

18 posted on 12/01/2008 2:14:03 PM PST by OB1kNOb (I for one will NOT welcome our new Marxist overlords.)
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To: RummyChick

I still want to see it. (as do millions of others)


19 posted on 12/01/2008 2:15:22 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: RummyChick

“A Kentucky truck driver last week filed a demand that Obama prove he is a natural-born U.S. citizen. Daniel John Essek, 47, wants the former Illinois senator to provide a copy of his birth certificate to a federal judge in London for verification.”


20 posted on 12/01/2008 2:15:24 PM PST by RummyChick
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