Posted on 11/29/2008 5:47:30 AM PST by IbJensen
The Christian faith is the only religion that cannot be manipulated in favor of one worldism or universalism sometimes called the New World Order. This is precisely why the world system and its political leaders hate, despise and persecute Christianity.
I hasten to explain that all the phony Christian fronts, televangelists and world evangelists are not Christians, but very much a part of the worldly system of antichrist.
All religions are collectivist religions except Christianity, which is an individual and individualist faith. Governments want and must have collectivism under some name whether it be democracy or communism.
Collectivism is a certain means of social, economic and religious control.
Politicians regularly espouse individualism, human liberty and democracy at the same time. Impossible! Individualism and human liberty are opposite to democracy and any other form of collectivism.
The collectivist mentality or the mass collective mind is the spirit of the New World Order. The collectivist man cannot oppose tyranny because he is himself tyranny. He is the reality of the supreme welfare state in its conspiracy of the ages to manipulate humanity against itself.
Collectivism is the foundation of the New World Order. It is supreme and total deception. It is completion of the tower of Babel. It is the conclusion and finished man without the spirit of Christ.
The collectivist mentality lures mankind into guidance from “higher authorities” (government). The crowd wants prepackaged truth and human freedom from government authority instead of using their own consciousness for making decisions and determining their own actions.
Hence, they are easily deceived and manipulated under some altruistic nonsense. Collective man wants the external authority of government instead of the spirit and mind of Christ. The animal farm is that world arena wherein man collectively surrenders himself, his personal being, his ego to collective and obedient faith in government authority.
It’s all very simple. A crowd can be manipulated into an altered state of consciousness (Hitler’s torchlight parades) finally evolving into a growing attitude of docility, whereas an individualistic person cannot be manipulated so easily. The state always considers that a self-sufficient and independent thinker is a threat to collectivism and its deception of the masses.
Thus, the Christian takes on the being and Spirit of Christ. His total allegiance is to The Living God. He will not sacrifice himself for “the common good” or “higher causes.” He cannot be manipulated by the State.
The welfare state must absolutely keep the people from the individualistic tendency of thinking for themselves.
Government parasites extract their wealth, power and pomp from mass deception based upon altruistic sacrifices of the workers and producers of wealth. Their greatest fear is that this will be revealed.
Human liberty is of God, not a privilege of the state. Let’s put on the whole Armor of God!
This is so true.
Secular conspiracies like the ones you mention that exploited and corrupted the universal longings of faith where believers embrace the tenants of a prophet have led to the worst horrors in history.
Temporal messiahs have always been the scourge of history.
Hopefully,come 1/20/09,this will not be the case.
“Do you not think the whole tone of this thread is a little unChristian?”
If I may interject, no where does it say that Christians are perfect, or have all attained a ‘perfect’ knowledge of Christianity.
This thread seems as good a place as any to talk it out.
Maybe that’s why you’re here. To listen and respond.
Something here is going entirely over my head. Jesus was pretty contemptuous of all politics and took great effort to avoid being political. Jesus called us to the weak, the poor, the sick and the lesser among us. I just don't get what purpose is served by trying to create a high octane mix of politics and faith.
Thanks for posting the article.
Since the very first statement, which seems the premise of the whole article, is arguably wrong I find it hard to make much of the story.
Plus, the title threw me off. I thought it was a thread on Hillary.
Yet, the basis of Christianity is the story of a martyr who was persecuted, and hung on a cross for our sins.
I love politics and love to debate issues. I love Christ and feel most comfortable with myself when He is present to me. I have never experienced Christ as part of the political agenda. I wonder if we would not serve the Lord best by trying to hold the two separate?
Ask Billy Graham.
It is mentioned in the Bible, one cannot serve two masters.
But the far religious right has created a very high octane mix, but as I see it, they refuse to see that not only have their religion influenced their politics, but their politics have definitely influenced their religion, as well. And this goes far beyond topics like homosexuality or abortion. In my opinion, the bible is pretty clear on matters like that. However, in matters of taxation, social programs, etc., I think the bible is not very clear at all. We do know what we are called to do personally, but we don't always know what government is called to do or not do.
Only God can be all merciful and all just—the Christian can only endlessly endeavor to do the same.
The evil always consider themselves perfect and the occasional altruism they may accidentally display is an imperfection and a weakness to them that needs aggressive and wicked purging.
Sorry Mr. Livingston is a rambling mess of inconsistencies and fallacies on normal social doctrine or methods. In looking the Ten Commandments it is designed as a social contract for society in the Old Testament or Torah and renewed into the Christian faith by Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount. To say the Christianity is only about individualism is wrong it is about a religious collective based on providing a moral society. However, the fight against communist/progressive socialism is a separate issue and must be looked at as a battle between methods of temporal social structure, not the religious, and what is against human nature and Christian moral structure. Communism/ progressive idealism will fail because Utopian philosophies based on progressive though is an anathema to human nature, but does not mean that other like minded zealots will try to hoist the petard of progressive societies again and again. What we are fighting is the artificial construct of socialism, not the human need or desire of social grouping or integration.
Excellent article and insight into the collectivist mind.
Obama’s “Rule” will drive many more to the bosom of Christ than the marxists will be able to stomach.
The State can never sate.
Silver linings are there if you look behind the cloud.
Bump.
But it's not a game. Man plays games, God rules. Once man realizes that and starts to live that truth, then and only then will there be peace -- individual and universal.
But the suffering is done by individuals. Christ died for the sins of individuals. We live, we give, we sin, we die as individuals.
Indeed. He said to "...visit the imprisoned....", but nowhere is there an admonition not to PUT them in prison if they need to be so placed.
Although I’m not a believer I do rally to the defense of the Christian heritage of our country, and don’t take kindly to those who want to secularize our society by gov’t fiat. However, in your enthusiasm you make wild assumptions about religious traditions you clearly know little about. At times collective organization is useful, as long as participation is voluntary. However, my own experience has been that even in carefully structured cooperatives, a selfless few tend to do far more work than the others and they eventually leave in frustration and the co-op never recovers. Socialism cannot tolerate any religion except Socialism. At the moment Islam and Socialism have an alliance of convenience, but it’s no more solid than the Hitler-Stalin Pact. It’s also natural for evil to discredit and try to destroy virtue. Yet the Roman Empire is long gone but the Jews are back in Judea and thriving. A poor Tibetan monk causes the Chicoms coniption fits whenever he lunches with foriegn leaders. I believe we are on the winning side.
Yes; it's men I was describing. (Moreover, game theory is not just about games.)
I’d also point out that when Christ selected “the rock” upon which His church would be built, he didn’t pick the devout, mild-mannered apostle whose faith was unshakeable (St. John) . . . He picked the impulsive, aggressive guy who would deny Christ three times, and didn’t hesitate to draw a sword and cut off the ear of the high priest’s servant when they came to arrest Him.
Yes but when the Lord put the band together, He had 1/12 Peter, 1/12 John, etc.
Today we have 7/12 Judas, 4/12 John, and Peter is some small portion of the remaining 1/12.
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