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A perception issue??? Quote if the day!
1 posted on 11/21/2008 9:03:20 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

I don’t understand all the criticism from government bow wows. GM execs are acting just they do.


2 posted on 11/21/2008 9:07:53 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Sub-Driver
Will the leasing company be demanding a billion dollar federal bailout now?
3 posted on 11/21/2008 9:11:14 AM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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To: Sub-Driver
Perhaps if GM had taken the Gov. Palin approach to financial management earlier it would not be in the sorry state in which it currently finds itself.
4 posted on 11/21/2008 9:12:31 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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I'm going to guess that they weren't private jets. Company owned, yes.

Truth be told, these CEOs can't trust the commercial aviation industry to get them there on time or at a specific time. And their time is money.

What they will do is purchase the services of NetJets or the like.

Don't fall for the class warfare stuff.

5 posted on 11/21/2008 9:12:56 AM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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I would think the government would want to set an example. Pelosi and others you need to return your private jets. Maybe you can walk or hire a Yugo.


6 posted on 11/21/2008 9:13:02 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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How many jets do they lease any way. What’s wrong with commercial travel! Does Gm not have computers???


10 posted on 11/21/2008 9:17:12 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts! Republicans do!)
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“There is a perception issue,”

LOLOL!!! Ya think...????

Kinda like “wardrobe malfunction”!


14 posted on 11/21/2008 9:20:23 AM PST by gimme1ibertee (Sarahloution!!!!!)
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“...flying on a private jet to ask for public funds and failing to make personal sacrifices in exchange for federal assistance....” - They simply forgot just how costly this was so they apologized...all is well.


15 posted on 11/21/2008 9:21:11 AM PST by choctaw man (choctaw man)
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It is certainly arguable whether Mr Wagoner is worth the $3.36 million he is paid each year (http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=GM ) or whether GM should be asking for or getting a bailout. However, IF he is going to do these things as GM’s CEO and ask for a bailout, he should do it in a cost effective manner. For someone at his pay level, it probably makes no more sense for him to waste time waiting to board a commercial flt (and presumably get less done on the flt) than it does for him to sweep the floor of his office and empty his own trash.


21 posted on 11/21/2008 9:29:04 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain inalienable rights.)
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The irony (jealousy?) here is that Nancy Pelosi demanded her own corporate jet, a 767, from the Air Force just last year.


25 posted on 11/21/2008 9:48:36 AM PST by oldbill
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So .. now 4 pilots and a number of machinics are out of a job...
Let the layoffs begin....but not for the UAW


27 posted on 11/21/2008 9:51:39 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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CASTRATION !!!!!!

Thats what this whole private plane issue is designed to do.

Congressional leaders delayed the $25 billion (which will ultimately come) and required the Detroit3 CEO's return to Washington in a couple of weeks so that there will be video of these three formerly powerful CEO's arriving back in Washington on commercial aircraft, thus castrating them. Two reasons: 1) Because these Congressional leaders can, and they love it screwing over other people. 2) To teach other industries not to come asking for money, unless they are carrying their testicles in their outstretched hand.

I suggest that the three CEO's, instead of using "commercial air" travel together to D.C. in a Tahoe Two-Mode Hybrid, with the "Captain's Seat" configuration (with a table between them). The Tahoe Hybrid was "Green Car Journal's" "Green Car of the Year" last year. It's about a 9 hour drive. They "could get a lot of business done, and turn a "castrating" experience into a show of D3's green technology.

29 posted on 11/21/2008 9:58:35 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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“There is a perception issue,” Wilkinson said of Wagoner’s travel to Washington on a private jet. “We need to be very sensitive to that going forward.”

Or in plain language, he doesn’t see a problem with it, but he’ll play the game (for now) to get what he wants.


32 posted on 11/21/2008 10:11:09 AM PST by Brookhaven (The Fair Tax is THE economic litmus test for conservatives)
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“A perception issue??? Quote if the day!”

Actually, there is a kernel of truth in that statement. Most CEO’s travel with a team. So, the math shown on tv, being about $900 for 1st class commercial vs $20,000 for a corporate jet to fly from Detroit>DC>Detroit, is somewhat exaggerated. Also, there are security issues as these are high profile people. Then, perhaps not in the case of these idiots, but there is a time value for these people, assuming that they are competent of course. Buuut, let's not let our self rightous congress of the hook so easily as many of these people fly on government owned versions of corporate jets. And then, how could we forget everyone’s sweetheart, Nancy Pelosi and her personal government owned Boeing 757 which is estimated to cost about $20,000 “per hour” to operate. Now, that's a bit excessive seems to me...

39 posted on 11/21/2008 11:12:36 AM PST by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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Leased jets. Who do these people think they are, Congress or something?!


41 posted on 11/21/2008 12:39:52 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Never argue with idiots. They'll pull you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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Wow! Problem solved! These jets add a cost of a penny per car while UAW health and pension costs add $1500 per vehicle. Now that the jets are gone, GM is back in black. Yea! /drippingsarcasmwithheavydisgust

GM needs to declare bankruptcy, kill a division, reduce models, close dealerships, layoff excess staff and start over. Period. Ford too. Bankruptcy is the best option.


45 posted on 11/21/2008 4:54:19 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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Dear Mr. Wilkinson,

If GM still thinks is a perception problem then you guys are dumber than we thought.

Sincerely,
A Tax Payer

46 posted on 11/21/2008 5:20:05 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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