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Scalia: Foreign law isn't ours
Houston Chronicle ^ | November 19, 2008 | MARY FLOOD

Posted on 11/20/2008 9:18:33 AM PST by Daffynition

Judges who use foreign laws to interpret the U.S. Constitution are rewriting it rather than respecting its founders, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia told a roomful of judges and top lawyers in Houston on Monday night.

"I fear the courts' use of foreign law in interpreting the Constitution will continue at an accelerated pace," the 72-year-old conservative jurist said.

Scalia spoke at a $150-a-head steak and potatoes dinner sponsored by the local chapter of the Federal Bar Association and held at the Hyatt Regency Houston downtown. Before talking for about 30 minutes, the jurist autographed copies of a book he co-authored.

Scalia promised to be noncontroversial but frequently used the example of Lawrence v. Texas, a Houston case in which he disagreed with the majority that struck down Texas' anti-sodomy law. Scalia complained that foreign laws were cited in that case.

Scalia was typically evangelical in his advocacy of "originalism," or strictly adhering to what the Constitutional authors meant more than 200 years ago. He criticized those who see the Constitution as an evolving or "living document" that adapts to the times.

The 1986 Reagan appointee said he'll only become a believer in those who cite foreign law if they do it more universally, like in abortion cases where more countries prohibit it than don't. "The court has ignored foreign law in its abortion cases," he said.

Scalia said the founders of this country did not want us to emulate Europe.

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(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: judges; judiciary; lp; scalia; scotus; supremecourt
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To: Daffynition

This shouldn’t be an issue, but the leftist judges on the Supreme Court are always looking the world over for laws that agree with their prejudices.

Whatever became of our constitutional republic? Did it become passe?

Government is a scourge on our independence and is no longer a protector of freedom. So let’s go to work and vote in some Republicans.


21 posted on 11/20/2008 10:23:17 AM PST by ShiveringShegetz (Yes, I'm Shivering!)
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To: PISANO

The first court in the Berg case deferred to Congress, since it’s Congress’s responsibility to write the laws to enforce the constitution and also to certify the election.

If SCOTUS passes on a full hearing for this, couldn’t any congressman issue a congressional subpoena? Or how do congressional subpoena’s work?

The problem of course in leaving it to congress is with a democratic majority, they aren’t going to be willing to do anything until Obama is out of office.


22 posted on 11/20/2008 10:39:48 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: ZULU
The Constitution is, in effect, a sacred contract between the people and the government.

While some interpretations, like “cruel and unusual punishment” are clearly subject to some degree of contemporary thought, the bulk of the document, like the First and Second Amendment, reflects basic standards of government which are to be altered only through the amendment process.

If we allow the liberal justices the latitude to in effect make the Constitution mean anything they wish it to mean, the government has broken its contract with the people and the only solution to that is to resort to the principles layed out clearly in the Declaration of Independence.


http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/

THIS is why I am trying to get all of you to join me in reading the Federalist Papers. Madison, Hamilton, Jay wrote as "Publius" to put forward reasons for the Constitution.

And at the above site, the Anti-Federalist Papers are available to read.

It is the smart thing to do, to quote from the Federalist Papers, when responding to any Democrat talking point. They're NOT following the Constitution. Bring them back to face it and do not allow them to reply outside of it.

Quote quote quote. They won't have a good response unless they admit they don't want or don't plan to follow the Constitution of the USofA.
Match-Game-Set. Constitution Wins.

23 posted on 11/20/2008 10:43:26 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (If the Catholic Church doesn't boldly proclaim God's Word, I'm going to convert to Judaism.)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Thank you for that link.

I’m embarrassed to admit, I never read the Federalist Papers.

I will make a promise to do so - quickly. We will need the ammo.


24 posted on 11/20/2008 10:44:59 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: subterfuge

“Why don’t Americans realize that? (Rhetorical question)”

Because they are ignorant, lazy and would rather have information spoon-fed them by the drive by media so they can watch their soaps, Dancing with the Stars, football games and play computer games rather than study why America is here, what history can teach them and why the Democrats and Muslims are the greatest threats to western civilization since Attila and the Huns.


25 posted on 11/20/2008 10:48:02 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

They also have Hollywood actors and actresses of such intelligence that they can handle politics and educate them as well.


26 posted on 11/20/2008 10:53:13 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, I'm A Racist and Proud Of It!)
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To: subterfuge
There should be no modern American law that relies on any precedent from europe.

All American law relies on European precedent: English Common Law.

27 posted on 11/20/2008 10:53:49 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: subterfuge

Hey, Bozo, if Scalia takes this controversy seriously, I’ll respect him even more. I doubt it; the fix is in. Now go eat a bullet.


28 posted on 11/20/2008 10:56:28 AM PST by Charles Bronson Forever
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To: ZULU
You should also check out The Founders' Constitution, which breaks the Constitution down clause by clause, then presents all the supporting documentation for each, from the debates in the Constitutional Convention to the Federalist Papers to private letters, commentary and legal cases. Utterly priceless.
29 posted on 11/20/2008 10:57:55 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Magna Carta too.

I guess the point is that the basis of judicial decisions in America should be based on the COnstitution and the legal thinking which preceeded it, instead of contemporary western European socialist jurisprudence or third world primitive concepts.


30 posted on 11/20/2008 10:58:33 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Daffynition

That is true. If foreign law were as good as ours, the rest of the world would be like the USA, but it isn’t and they aren’t.


31 posted on 11/20/2008 11:00:10 AM PST by RightWhale (Exxon Suxx)
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To: holdonnow

God Bless Scalia.


32 posted on 11/20/2008 11:00:25 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: ZULU
The Ginsbergs, Souters and other freaks the Dems

Sadly the Republicans wee responsible for most of this. Orin Hatch recommended Ginsberg, and another lefty that I forget, as two choices that would sail through the Senate committee which Hath chaired, and sure enough they did.

33 posted on 11/20/2008 11:07:13 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: RightWhale

Good point.


34 posted on 11/20/2008 11:15:03 AM PST by Dante3
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To: itsahoot

Orin Hatch is one of those reasons the GOP needs to go.

He’s a popular guy, but basically - he’s an idiot. But he is a Mormon Idiot from Utah who has racked up his share of “favors” for the local constituents and is basically a nice guy. But he’s a lib.

He needs to be replaced by an intelligent conservative Mormom from Utah with Testacles - there are a LOT of them around.


35 posted on 11/20/2008 11:33:01 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

I am going to! Not that I have any position of importance to influence anyone, but just to know. I am also having my whole family, me, my kids and husband, listen through a government series by the called the 5000 Year Leap published byt he National Center for Constitutional Studies that explains the whole constitution and the principles behind everything in it (principles the founders were all well versed in such as Old Testament principles of limited government and representation, Blackstone’s Law, Natural Law, etc. My kids like it even though they roll their eyes when I say it’s time to watch, they really pay attnetion and like answering the questions at the end. I’m going to buy several sets of this series to send out to some Senators and Congressmen.


36 posted on 11/20/2008 11:39:57 AM PST by boxlunch
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To: Daffynition

Yeah, just wait till they start using Sharia in their decisions. Give it 10 years.


37 posted on 11/20/2008 12:12:42 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: itsahoot

Yeah, the Republicans had the silly idea that if a president won an election,

he should be able to appoint the judges that he wants to as a result of that win.

The Democrats during the Bush admin showed us how wrong the GOP was on that view. The SENATE (or at least 41 members of it) gets to determine what judges are appointed.

/sarc


38 posted on 11/20/2008 12:15:11 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: HighlyOpinionated; ZULU; y'all
ZULU:
The Constitution is, in effect, a sacred contract between the people and the government.
-- the bulk of the document, like the First and Second Amendment, reflects basic standards of government which are to be altered only through the amendment process.

The First and Second Amendments reflect our basic standards of rights -- to life, liberty, and property.. Rights which cannot be altered or infringed, even through the amendment process. -- Any 'amendments' that violated our basic rights would be unconstitutional, - null & void from enactment. [see Marbary v Madison]

39 posted on 11/20/2008 1:13:24 PM PST by jtom36
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To: jtom36

Does Obama know that?


40 posted on 11/20/2008 1:17:35 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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