Posted on 11/18/2008 7:35:49 PM PST by dvan
Hundreds of homosexual activists rushed out of bars and swarmed a group of Christians who were singing songs in San Francisco's Castro District – and some even threatened to kill the worshippers.
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”
I think alot of this by the gay community could affect freedom of religion. If they (the gays) can dictate federal recognition of “marriage for gay’s” then the federal government could fine churches if their leaders didn’t allow gay marriage. In other words, the Federal Government would then be able to dictate to churches what those churches could preach, teach and practice..... IMHO
That’s what they get for being stupid. Prepare to fight or stfu. If you go into the lions den don’t complain when the lion starts eating you.
I posted it. The report from the actual participants is here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2133515/posts
Thanks for that!
There has been a culture war going on in this country for decades and it’s getting worse.
As the hypocrats gain more power it will continue to get worse.
The godless liberals are demanding God be removed from their midsts and they’ve largely been successful, and yet despite their success we now see the beginnings of violence FROM THEIR SIDE.
The more power they gain, the more control they exert, the more unhinged they become. Most godless liberals like Bill Ayers see God and America as what’s wrong with the entire world. To some extent our next president agrees as evidenced by his ‘bitter clinger’ comments.
Soon Christians will be labeled as haters for not accepting the homosexual lifestyle first in California, and then NATIONALLY.
I certainly can’t speak for Mormon churches but many churches are more and more convinced we’re closing in on the end times.
Perhaps.
Biblically, we do know things will get worse over time, not better.
I’m concerned for my kids and an impending civil war of sorts.
Only not Federals vs. confederates or north vs. south or blue. vs. gray but:
Christians vs. secularists
sane vs. insane
conservatives vs. liberals
Republicans vs. democrats
We’re as polarized as ever and despite the ramblings of the coming disaster known as the zero exclaiming unity, change and hope, we get further and further apart.
The next 4 years are going to produce alot more violence for you to read about I fear!
BTW, what country are you in now?
forgot about that full faith and credit thing. I haven’t had my second mornig cup of coffee yet. Thanks for responding
Feds fining churches for beliefs alone would be far from a good thing and would overstep the seperation of church and state issue.
A couple of years ago, we decided we'd had enough of MA, and made plans to move back home to MS. Unfortunately, the real estate market tanked, so we're still here. We have some work to do to update the house to get the best price. Since we're doing all the work ourselves, we'll see the benefits directly of any modernizing that's done.
Actually, we're thinking the Lord worked to delay our departure, because I started having more difficulties with Atrial Fibrillation, which I've had off and on for 10 years, and ended up in the hospital on Christmas Day, last year. I was assigned a Cardiologist who specializes in 'wiring problems' like mine, and next Wed., I'm going into the hospital to have a Cardiac Ablation, which, if successful, will stop the A-Fib, and I can go off the Warfarin, and the BP meds. If we'd moved already, I may have had difficulty finding someone, locally, who specialized in my particular problem. So when I'm all healed, we're gonna concentrate on getting the house remodeled and getting OUTTA here! Good medical care, or no, we're tired of the flaming liberals all around us.
The guy in the video says stay out of our neighborhood. Yet they try to spread their homosexual marriage to the whole state and country. And they show their true colors when they loose. Even they know that their “Utopian” world is small and bounded by a great silent majority... that votes.
These young people were spreading the Gospel. They are noble!!!!!!!!!! I am humbled by their courage.
One cannot legally do this in some other countries. India,Saudi etc.
Think of the movie “The Mission” which opens with a missionary sent over huge waterfall ...crucified.
God sees it all.
Romans 12:19
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, “VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY,” says the Lord.
If you Pray...pray for these kids. And I guess their antagonists.
The homofascists should beware wishing that the Christians are not around. The Christians and the Jews act as the canary in the coalmine; when they are not there, there is no restaint on behavior.
To get this point across, the Christians should make a public statement: you do not want us here, very well, we will do what the L-rd told us to do in a situation like this — we will shake the dust of your city off our feet and go elsewhere. But know this: you and your city are cursed from now on and G-d will have more mercy on the people of Sodom and Gomorrah than you.
Poofs on parade
what has the horrible disease of aids taught these lost souls? Nothing...if ever there was a stark warning to cry to God for help out of homosexual perversion, aids has been it.
The homosexuals were “in my neighborhood” just last Sunday - picketing a Mormon place 3 blocks from my church.
They are very happy to go “into our neighborhoods,” they hardly stay in their own ghettos! They infiltrate and protest at masses and conservative evangelical churches, too.
Haven’t read of any protests at any mosques, however.
I have heard that years ago in Ireland some men did their Church duty by standing outside and keeping watch.
I am trying to find out more about that. I think it was a Protestant Vs Catholic thing but an outside watch is not a bad idea these days.
Mosques probably have made statements but the media probably would not play them.
Below is a breakdown by one of the kids who were harassed, beaten and chased by these ghouls. Good thing the cops got there in time. Who knows what might have happened.
November 18, 2008
Last Friday night (11.14.0 our team of thirteen people, mostly ranging from eighteen to twenty-two years old, left the house around 5:30pm to head to the Castro District as we have done for the majority of Friday nights for the past three years. Over the course of the week we had actually been out in the Castro every night, singing and worshiping in the neighborhood. This night we arrived at Castro and 18th Street, with one guitar to simply worship and bring the presence of God to the Castro District. We understood that since Proposition 8 had passed it would seem instigating to talk with people, so we decided to only play the guitar and sing rather than to engage with anyone on the streets.
Our intention was not to stir up anger, but to worship Jesus on the streets the way we had worshipped there for the past three years. As we were worshiping a man approached us and began yelling “You are haters! Get out of here!” A girl on our team simply told him “We are only here to worship God. We love you.” This man became angrier and was screaming at her using profanity and obscene language. When he noticed that we were standing in front of a memorial that had been dedicated to an AIDS/HIV activist he became even more enraged. We had stood on that particular street corner numerous times when there had been a memorial and it had never been an issue before this night. She continued to answer him “We are only here to worship God. We love you and Jesus loves you,” and eventually he left the street corner. A police officer then came and asked us how long we would be out there. We told him until nine o clock and he said “ok” and left.
Our team continued to sing as a young man approached us. He stood near by until another man joined him. He was wearing a headdress, which led us to believe that he was affiliated with the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. This man in the headdress began to surround us with a cloth and shoving us to encircle us fully with the cloth. He wanted to do this so that people on the outside could not see us. While this was happening the other man instigated to people walking by that we were the “Yes on 8 people”. When in reality, we were only doing what we had always done at the Castro since before proposition 8 was even in sight. This was not a proposition 8 event.
At this point our team was standing in a circle holding hands singing “Amazing Grace.”
While they were holding the cloth around us someone from the crowd threw hot coffee over the cloth and it hit our team, including splashing two of our girls in the face and one on her head going down her back. At first the girls thought it was boiling water until they smelled that it was coffee.
During the event people lunging through the crowd to get at us hit a couple of our girls in the face.
Then a man picked up one of our Bibles and started to walk away with it. A girl from our team walked out of the circle after him and said, “Excuse me that is our Bible. Could I have that back please?” He turned to her and said “no” then hit her on the head with the Bible knocking her to the ground, then began kicking her legs. A man from the crowd pulled him off of her. A police officer then came and detained the man who hit her. One officer asked the girl on our team if she would like to press charges. She said “No. Tell him I forgive him.”
A couple of the people who were holding the cloth around our team walk up to her and said “We are sorry that happened to you.” and “He is not with us.” referring to the man that hit her. Then the man who had been responsible for making the crowd think we were there concerning Proposition 8 said to her “I’m glad to see that you’re feeling better, but let that be a lesson to you not to come here.”
At different points throughout the night one girl on our team had her camera and was able to film some of what was happening.
The crowd around began to grow as people started to scream “Shame on you! Shame on you!” over and over. They were yelling all kinds of obscenities and cursing us. That is when one of the young men who was with us called the police department to let them know what was happening. It was difficult to say how many people were surrounding us due to the chaos of the situation. We were trying to focus on worshiping rather than the masses, but we would guess anywhere from 200 to 500 people. One of the girls then stepped out to see how the girl who got hit was doing. And as she rejoined the team singing, she overheard a few men saying things like “we should grab them.” As well as “yeah we should grab their butts.” At that point we realized that it was climaxing into a really hostile situation.
Then it seemed like out of nowhere hundreds of whistles were being blown in our ears. Around that time someone removed the cloth which enabled the crowd to enclose around us turning the situation into what resembled a mob frenzy. The people in the crowd were shoving us against the wall blowing the whistles in our ears so close that we could feel the spit from the whistles hitting our faces. Around that time we began to sing “Oh the Blood of Jesus.” Things grew more intense and the crowd came in closer around us shoving and pushing us. Some men from the crowd began grabbing a few of the young men on our team inappropriately, sexually assaulting them and trying to take down the pants of one of them. When that began the young men with us quickly pulled all the girls into the middle so that no one could get to them.
The intensity of the mob around us grew until finally the police had to shove the crowd off of us and they made a wall between the crowd and our group. There was one moment when a man from the crowd around us pointed out Roger, the leader of our team, and said, “I’m going to kill you!” An officer overheard and said to him “What did you say!?” The man said “nothing.” And the officer replied, “I heard what you said.”
Then one officer said to Roger “Do you want to leave?” and he replied, “We would like to stay” because we knew we had the freedom to be there. A few minutes later as the crowd was growing quickly the officer said to Roger “I am sorry, but we need to get you out of here because we fear for your life, you no longer have a choice.” Roger turned to our team and explained that we were going to honor the police and follow them. The officer came back, asked us where we were parked and told us we would be moving out in five minutes. At that point there was somewhere between 15 and 25 police officers. They surrounded our team and escorted us to 20th and Eureka Street where our van was parked. As they were escorting us to our van the crowd followed our team and continued to scream and threaten us. They even threatened to follow us all the way home. As we were being escorted out a man with a news camera showed up and began filming us. (Later we found the footage on KTVU, a local news station in the Bay Area) They had reported that we were doing a religious march regarding Proposition 8, when in all actuality we were being escorted out of the Castro. Realizing the hostility of the people who were still following us, and their threats to “follow us all the way home” we covered our license plate with post-it notes that a guy on our team had in his wallet. We did this so that they could not identify our vehicle later. We then loaded our entire team into the van and drove home. The time when we left was 8:30.
In closing, though this event was one of the scariest moments in our individual lives, because of those who have died in America to purchase freedom, we felt in this situation we were to stand firm and not be intimidated out of our rights. Furthermore our faith in Christ calls us to be willing to die for the sake of the gospel, and we are not to sacrifice for the sake of comfort or a false peace. Though the American church has not often been tested in this, these days seem to be upon us. We love the LGBT community and we do not believe that everyone in this community is filled with hate or anger. What happened on Friday night was different than what we have ever encountered. We forgive those who assaulted us physically and sexually. We forgive the anger and threats of violence against us. Our desire has always been to be a bridge to bring the love of Jesus.
Thank you,
JHOPSF team.
Young people who were there
That this happened is terrible...I’m sorry you all went through it...San Francisco is becoming even more degenerate and frightening...I can’t believe its allowed..the folks that live there can’t safely walk the streets...
Since San Fagcisco decided to be a sanctuary city for all the illegal’s, erect a wall around it and every other city that does the same. Withdraw all federal funding to all sanctuary cities. They want them so damn bad, let them pay for ‘ em.
Erect a wall from the southern most tip of Kalifornicator to the furthest northern tip. Dig the wall down 100 feet. Make it a steel reinforced 25 foot thick electrified concrete wall that is also 100 feet tall. Purple tipped concertina wire running all across the top and down both sides. Also bury millions of broken windshields, more concertina wire, rusty nails, old barbwire, etc., along the outer edge of the wall. Bury all this stuff from 6 inches to 200 or more feet down.
Leave the Mexican / Kaliforicator border wide open. Mine the Pacific coast line (allow them in, but not out).
Just a thought.
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