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Although Sen. DeMint is absolutely spot-on in his lambasting of McCain/Bush, it is critical for conservatives to accept the fact that McCain (or any 'elder statesman) was absolutely the WRONG person to represent the Republican Party in 2008.

McCain long ago represented something 'fresh', but in 2008 voters instinctively saw MaCain as the ultimate boring Washington insider, too old and uninspiring to carry the mantle of conservatism... or be President.

What WERE Florida Republican primary voters thinking when they selected McCain over Romney or even Mike Huckabee ... both of whom at least would have been able to communicate the conservative message.

1 posted on 11/16/2008 6:27:07 AM PST by Edit35
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Uh, oh! You said “Romney”. Look out, here come the slings and arrows.


2 posted on 11/16/2008 6:32:36 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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What WERE Florida Republican primary voters thinking when they selected McCain...

To Florida voters, he seemed so young and spry...

3 posted on 11/16/2008 6:32:57 AM PST by Onelifetogive (I'm gonna drop talk radio in favor of some audio books. Gotta lower my blood pressure.)
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Exactly. Our nominee should have been Mitt Romney.


4 posted on 11/16/2008 6:32:59 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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The media chose the candidates for this race and, ultimately, the new president.

McCain wins coverage battle

6 posted on 11/16/2008 6:34:03 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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Fred Thompson would have been great, too bad that either the energy wasn’t there, or something else was lacking. Imagine a Thompson/Palin ticket ...


7 posted on 11/16/2008 6:35:46 AM PST by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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A Republican with a backbone...who’d a thunk it?

I disagree about Romney. He only became a conservative because it was convenient at the time. His past indicates otherwise. Duncan Hunter was the only truely consistent conservative running. And conservatives did not support him and chose to select a bunch of used car salesmen.

Maybe conservatives need to take a good hard look at themselves and, as a group, come together to support the real conservatives and not just those who catch the eye of the MSM.


8 posted on 11/16/2008 6:35:51 AM PST by AnnGora (I am unique. Just like everybody else.)
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Ronald Reagan believed the best way forward was to go back and see where things went south to begin with and start from there. That sounds like excellent advice for Republicans to take today.
9 posted on 11/16/2008 6:36:21 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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...proponent of campaign finance reform that weakened party organizations and basically put George Soros in the driver's seat,...proposal for amnesty for illegals...support of global warming, cap-and-trade programs ...his embrace of the bailout right before the election...he has been an opponent of drilling in ANWR...

That sums it up rather tidily!

All this applies to the two scoundrels that, willingly or not, castrated the Republican Party!

Hopefully our next president will be the governor of this very state in which this conference was held.

11 posted on 11/16/2008 6:39:09 AM PST by IbJensen (Obombazombies have given America to the Communists!)
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What WERE Florida Republican primary voters thinking when they selected McCain over Romney or even Mike Huckabee ... both of whom at least would have been able to communicate the conservative message.

This election was lost long before Florida. Romney and Huckabee are just as unlikely to win.

15 posted on 11/16/2008 6:40:33 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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The Republican party needs to go through self cleansing.
We need to fire the careerists and vote in ideologues.


20 posted on 11/16/2008 6:42:25 AM PST by Read2Know ("A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." S. Freud)
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The same mentality that gave McCain the nomination, is the same mentality that WILL NOT CHANGE THE TOP LEADERSHIP IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE.

By that I mean Bonehead from Ohio and McConell from Ky.
Great guys, but not the right conservative leadership for this time.

If Bonehead and McConnell are still in power after leadeership votes next week,
that will be a sign nothing has changed. Yes, I know some lower level leadership spots are changing, but the top level MUAT change as well.


21 posted on 11/16/2008 6:42:34 AM PST by tennmountainman
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in 2008 voters instinctively saw MaCain as the ultimate boring Washington insider, too old and uninspiring to carry the mantle of conservatism... or be President

I prognosticated that in February 2008, and I didn't even have to channel Jean Dixon to make that determination:

from Obama, Clinton Are Even In Poll - McCain Now Clearly GOP's Front-Runner After Primary Wins
If McCain does get the GOP nomination, the big question will then be:
Does McCain lose in November by more or fewer states/Electoral votes than Bob Dole lost (31-19 States/379-159 Electoral Votes) in 1996?

10 posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:27:43 AM by TomGuy

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Well, McCain did finish with a slightly improved EV count of 173 and 22 states over Dole's 159 EV and 19 states. McCain should thank Gov. Palin for much of that, instead of allowing his minions to diss her.
22 posted on 11/16/2008 6:43:16 AM PST by TomGuy
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What WERE Florida Republican primary voters thinking when they selected McCain over Romney or even Mike Huckabee ... both of whom at least would have been able to communicate the conservative message.

And would have provide the same results, it would have been a cold in H' and still would for me to vote for the big government huckster, and willard is nothing more than a closet liberal.

26 posted on 11/16/2008 6:47:15 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts! Republicans do!)
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It really does not matter how old McCain is, the main problem with him is that he was not and is not a conservative.


27 posted on 11/16/2008 6:47:34 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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Oh man. Not the Romney thing again. Mitt is not a conservative, or at least he didn't spout conservative ideas until days before he declared his bid for president.
30 posted on 11/16/2008 6:50:56 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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McCain, who is proponent of campaign finance reform that weakened party organizations and basically put George Soros in the driver's seat," DeMint said. . . . CHECK

"His proposal for amnesty for illegals. . . . CHECK

His support of global warming, cap-and-trade programs that will put another burden on our economy. . . . CHECK

And of course, his embrace of the bailout right before the election was probably the nail in our coffin this last election. . . . CHECK

And he has been an opponent of drilling in ANWR, at a time when energy is so important. . . . CHECK

It really didn't fit the label, but he was our package." . . . CHECK

32 posted on 11/16/2008 6:51:34 AM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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I heard that Lindsey Graham had a “pleasant” 20 minute conversation with Obama the other day. He is a broker for a McCain-Obama meeting in the near future to possibly discuss a roll for McCain in the new administration.

Yet, Lindsey Graham escapes DeMint’s wrath. It’s time to go for it all the way, take names and hold nothing back or else we will never be rid of the decease that has infiltrated our party.


34 posted on 11/16/2008 6:52:34 AM PST by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't 't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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QUICK! Post the “beating the dead horse” graphic!!


40 posted on 11/16/2008 6:56:06 AM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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Well, I agree with DeMint... I actually blame Bush more than McCain. But, McCain WAS just a promise of “More Bush”...

These guys were elected to lower taxes and control spending... One part accomplished, one part blown...

Add to that, a neccessary but less than successful war, and a President who decided he didn’t have to sell his plan to the people anymore... and, you get a disaster that couldn’t be overcome.

I take a lesson from watching the Dems in the past 8 years. After Kerry lost, many on their side said the needed to MOVE to the MIDDLE. In some ways, they did.. they allowed (even encouraged) moderates in Congressional races.. They let LOCAL politicians shape their own message to allow victory at their level. But, on the National scale, the moved FAR LEFT. And, it has worked.

I am worried, that with the rapid increase in the numbers of Latino voters, the electorate has moved far enough Left that there is no way to recover our Republic. But, the answer is not to move there with them. The ONLY answer that works in the long-term is to convince more of them that conservatism works.


41 posted on 11/16/2008 6:56:16 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( When you find yourself going through Hell, keep going!)
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yeah, because Romney is just so darn conservative. /sarc


42 posted on 11/16/2008 6:56:40 AM PST by Cailleach
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