People, Stop This Stupidity:
http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news
Here is the ONLY RELEVANT QUOTE. Nothing else matters in this matter:
“Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,” Fukino said.”
The state of Hawaii would not have a birth certificate of someone not born in the state of Hawaii.
It doesn’t matter what else it says. It doesn’t matter if the entirety of the rest of his lineage is fabricated or even if his mother and father are space aliens and recorded as such on that certificate. It wouldn’t matter if his mother and father were Eva Braun and Joseph Stalin.
He Was Born In Hawaii. That’s all that is relevant to this matter. He fulfills the requirement.
The story is done. The energy wasted on this could have been spent getting a few more votes for Senate in Minnesota — and would have mattered a great deal more to the future of the US.
You said:
“The state of Hawaii would not have a birth certificate of someone not born in the state of Hawaii.”
You are absolutely, 100% incorrect.
“Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence,” the document said. “The only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama’s original birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.”
A COLB, fake or otherwise does not muster the standards for determining constitutional elligibility.
That is why COLBs were tossed, and the long form BCs were requested for other past candidates to determine elligibility.
“Historically, California Secretaries of State have exercised their due diligence by reviewing necessary background documents, verifying that the candidates that were submitted by the respective political parties as eligible for the ballot were indeed eligible. In 1968, the Peace and Freedom Party submitted the name of Eldridge Cleaver as a qualified candidate for President of the United States. The then SOS, Mr. Frank Jordan, found that, according to Mr. Cleaver’s birth certificate, he was only 34 years old, one year shy of the 35 years of age needed to be on the ballot as a candidate for President. Using his administrative powers, Mr. Jordan removed Mr. Cleaver from the ballot. Mr. Cleaver unsuccessfully challenged this decision to the Supreme Court of the State of California, and, later, to the Supreme Court of the United States.”
Similarly, in 1984, the Peace and Freedom Party candidate Larry Holmes was removed from the ballot.
The “certificate of live birth” posted by the Obama campaign cannot be viewed as authoritative, the case alleges.
I take it you're not familiar with the question of Barry's Indonesian citizenship?
Per Indonesian immigration law at the time of Barry's emigration there, he would have had to renounce his American citizenship to become an Indonesian citizen. His mother married an Indonesian, who adopted Barry, so the renunciation of his American citizenship surely occurred.
So far, Obama has provided NO proof that he subsequently re-applied for, and was granted American citizenship. He may still be an Indonesian citizen for all the public knows.
And, of course, if he is, he cannot legally assume the office of the Presidency.
Allow me to chime in here with my own first comment to the thread...
Barack Obama is withholding information from his original birth certificate, because something on there is so damaging, that he would prefer to fight in court to keep it hidden.
Since he has won the 2008 election, there is no reason for him to continue to withhold the release of his COLB if that information is merely embarrassing.
However, Obama et al are continuing to block the release of his COLB with legal maneuvering, i.e., that something is much more damaging to him than a mere "embarrassment".
Therefore, it can be rightfully deduced that Obama has committed a fraud of some degree upon the American people vis a vis his eligibility to assume the office of President.
The continuing and rising interest in this case is wholly justified, in my opinion, by the simple facts above.
That turns out not to be the case.
From the State's own website:
s provided by law (HRS §§338-17.7, 338-20.5), the following persons may apply for an amended certificate of birth:
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* A person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii.
As you'll recall, BO was adopted by his stepfather. There are other potential ways as well, but this would be the most common.
There have been several discussions regarding Hawaiian birth certificates. Those born on foreign soil, but residing in Hawaii, that did not have a birth certificate were allowed to register their births in Hawaii at the time Obama was born in 1961.
The Hawaiian officials have only said that they have the birth certificate, but they have not stated that he was actually born in Hawaii. They cannot publically divulge where he was born or any other information contained on that record by law.