You said:
“The state of Hawaii would not have a birth certificate of someone not born in the state of Hawaii.”
You are absolutely, 100% incorrect.
“Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence,” the document said. “The only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama’s original birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.”
A COLB, fake or otherwise does not muster the standards for determining constitutional elligibility.
That is why COLBs were tossed, and the long form BCs were requested for other past candidates to determine elligibility.
“Historically, California Secretaries of State have exercised their due diligence by reviewing necessary background documents, verifying that the candidates that were submitted by the respective political parties as eligible for the ballot were indeed eligible. In 1968, the Peace and Freedom Party submitted the name of Eldridge Cleaver as a qualified candidate for President of the United States. The then SOS, Mr. Frank Jordan, found that, according to Mr. Cleaver’s birth certificate, he was only 34 years old, one year shy of the 35 years of age needed to be on the ballot as a candidate for President. Using his administrative powers, Mr. Jordan removed Mr. Cleaver from the ballot. Mr. Cleaver unsuccessfully challenged this decision to the Supreme Court of the State of California, and, later, to the Supreme Court of the United States.”
Similarly, in 1984, the Peace and Freedom Party candidate Larry Holmes was removed from the ballot.
The “certificate of live birth” posted by the Obama campaign cannot be viewed as authoritative, the case alleges.
“Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence,”
Yes, also note that Barry's famous COLB says "Date Filed By Registrar” versus the more accurate "Date Accepted By Registrar.”
Words mean things...
Two questions here:
1. What is this "document" that is cited above?
2. Perhaps most importantly, the claim that "he doesn't have a birth certificate, he has a record of birth" in Hawaii seems to be wrong, as a matter of record (forgive the pun), given what Owen posted in 543, namely the article here: http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news and the relevant quote,
"“Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,” Fukino said.”
Onaka and Fukino specifically used the term "original Birth Certificate", and not "Certificate of Live Birth". How much more can anyone want? Why isn't this good enough?