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To: little jeremiah; Gemsbok

My position: Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, making him a natural born citizen.

There is evidence here asserting the contrary. I have weighed it, and do not feel it is factual.

However, I am fascinated by this case and continue to research the various points brought up. I will not blindly agree with what is stated here without doing my own research and I would assume all of you would wish do the same.

I do not choose to be strident or rude in my dealing on this forum. All of us are worthy of a certain amount of respect, regardless of political opinion. If you call that passive aggressive, so be it, it is not intended as such.


1,678 posted on 11/17/2008 9:46:24 AM PST by pa mom
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To: pa mom

If he is a natural born citizen, then what is he hiding on the birth certificate?

It must be pretty embarrassing....


1,686 posted on 11/17/2008 10:15:58 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: pa mom

Even if you think he was a natural born citizen, you have to acknowledge that his refusal to do a very simple thing, release the birth certificate, is highly suspicious.

It is quite possible that the birth certificate bears an annotation of his adoption by Soetero, making him thenceforth an Indonesian citizen, a status he never renounced. Furthermore, it may be that his birth certificate even bears the last name Soetero, depending on the practice of that state at the time. What would be the legal ramifications of such a thing? I have no idea, but whatever they are, I’m sure Obama has consulted about it and has decided that the results would possibly not be favorable to him. At the very least, it reveals him as an unscrupulous liar, but we all knew that anyway.

The fact that the Dems tried to slip language permitting a naturalized citizen to be President into another resolution of theirs makes me think that at least some Dems are aware of the situtation, too. Otherwise, if he had been born in Hawaii as you assert, he and the Dems would certainly have released the original by now simply to make his accusers look foolish. Instead, he’s hiding it - because he needs to hide it for some reason.


1,688 posted on 11/17/2008 10:23:20 AM PST by livius
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To: pa mom
I do not choose to be strident or rude in my dealing on this forum.

Unfortunately, your methods, remind me of an Agnostic talking to a Christian. The claim is always, that they are trying to learn, because they really don't know. The truth is they call every belief the Christian holds true into question, their real motive is to kill the Christians faith. I really don't understand why it would make any difference to an Agnostic, unless, the Christian Faith limits their lifestyle.

1,791 posted on 11/17/2008 2:40:19 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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