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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

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To: BIGLOOK

>>>Grandmother publishes the Birth notice in the newspaper ...

A newspaper like maybe the ‘Hawaiian Record’ with the assistance of Frank Davis?

Just thinking out loud.


2,161 posted on 11/18/2008 7:26:55 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Lmo56

Objections can be to the casting of votes for an ineligible candidate. There is nothing new added to my understanding by your post though posting actual quotes from the Constitution is always goods.

Earlier someone referred to the election of 1876 wherein decisions had to be made regarding which electoral votes were to be counted. Thus, the comment that there are no provisions to objecting to a candidate is beside the point and I had never intended to imply that it would be the candidate per se under discussion rather than the votes.


2,162 posted on 11/18/2008 7:27:57 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Gemsbok

Just a reminder that Factcheck.org is not a reliable source of information.


2,163 posted on 11/18/2008 7:28:26 PM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: Chief Engineer; Calpernia
Cal said: My opinion is he would supoena Wayne Madsen or the pertinent parties. I don’t think Berg would present heresay. His team has done quite a bit of research.

Chief Said:The items posted by Wayne Madsen on-line have mysteriously disappeared

Like the HI birth certificate...I believe items that have been subpoenaed to be used in court are "pull from public domain/ and or the record to keep them in "safe keeping: no tampering etc.

2,164 posted on 11/18/2008 7:29:36 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: STARWISE

He is full of crap about McCain being ineligible. He meets the definition of Natural born as per the legal definitions of natural born. Congress has the authority to define precisely what that means and who is included.


2,165 posted on 11/18/2008 7:30:35 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: luvadavi

Don’t think it is illegal to run for office, just can’t hold office......Wish I’d bben a fly on the wall when McCain and OB met Monday.


2,166 posted on 11/18/2008 7:31:35 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: STARWISE

Not if he believes someone born to military parents in the Canal Zone is not a natural born citizen. That claim is either made by one who is clueless, doesn’t understand the law or is working for Obama to muddy the waters.

This sounds like a scheme to make Obama look no worse than McCain.


2,167 posted on 11/18/2008 7:33:01 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: hoosiermama

Some items which have been pulled are odd! Three examples beside the Wayne Madsen items are:
1-The story of the woman who had worked with Jr at his first job post Columbia;
2-The story of the initial meeting of Jr and Frank Marshall Davis and
3-The story of Ann’s last days
not one of those is about the lawsuit


2,168 posted on 11/18/2008 7:34:10 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer

No Archive? Try google and see if you can pull them up that way. Uswe author’s name plus a key phrase you remember from article.....It sometimes works.


2,169 posted on 11/18/2008 7:36:29 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: hoosiermama

I thought about that the other day when you posted it. I wonder if the governor sealed it to *keep* it from being tampered with.

Night!


2,170 posted on 11/18/2008 7:39:03 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: STARWISE; All

Just wow....our constitution nows boil down to a ‘lowly clerk’..unelected...unknown...and biased by his/her personal ‘feelings’....instead of the LAW!

This is what disturbs many of us the most. That is, that this stuff was set into our constitution..yet no-one is ‘charged’ with securing that our constitution is followed in any way in regards to POTUS!

We now have a clerk at the Supreme Court ruling our country...lol. That’s rich.

We are going to be forced now to fight the socialism of America in the courts now folks. I made a list of conservative legal eagles(foundations,etc.) the other night and if anyone would like the list in order to donate to, please let me know. I will gladly repost it in this thread or make another thread.


2,171 posted on 11/18/2008 7:39:15 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: jamese777

So you are relying on the AP which has carried the fraudulent Virginia case you used to try and make this all go away? And you think factcheck is something other than a Leftist propaganda site and worthy of belief?

And if the Director called something “ridiculous” that is supposed to have meaning? What is ridiculous about wanting to see something critical to having an legitimate president?

You want to know about “ridiculous” how about the frenzied efforts of the media to ignore this issue? Or the refusal just to allow a court to examine the document if not making it public altogether. Now THAT all is ridiculous.


2,172 posted on 11/18/2008 7:40:34 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: itsahoot

There’s a reason this hasn’t been heard and a reason why some like Coulter/etc aren’t touching this. The whole born in Kenya Corsi thing turned out to be a waste of time as is this. Let’s get Pawlenty primed for the run


2,173 posted on 11/18/2008 7:43:32 PM PST by GerardKempf (Let's Get Over This)
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To: hoosiermama
You can run but you can't hide...now what he hoped would stay unchallenged is coming back to haunt him.

When he & McJuan met, no doubt McJ put his arm around 0's shoulders and said, "My good friend, you know I never meant a word of all those awful things I said about you...!"

2,174 posted on 11/18/2008 7:45:50 PM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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To: BP2

If Zero was born in Hawaii he is natural born no matter what British law says.


2,175 posted on 11/18/2008 7:51:21 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: BP2

If Zero was born in Hawaii he is natural born no matter what British law says.


2,176 posted on 11/18/2008 7:51:21 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Frantzie

The constitution clearly does not state that. IF this is the quality of his legal argumentation his case is DOA and will only harm us.


2,177 posted on 11/18/2008 7:54:21 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Calpernia; All
Night

One last thing...This list is shorter than the one I first saw. No "Mail child" Also, Don't remember that Berg included the Federal Election COmmission as part of suit What is DOS 1-50 Inclusive mean?

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, a/k/a :
BARRY SOETORO, a/k/a :
BARRY OBAMA , a/k/a :
BARACK DUNHAM, a/k/a :
BARRY DUNHAM, THE :
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL :
COMMITTEE, THE FEDERAL :
ELECTION COMMISSION AND :
DOES 1-50 INCLUSIVE :
Defendants :

2,178 posted on 11/18/2008 7:54:47 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Chief Engineer

This Wayne Madsen article was posted on FR?


2,179 posted on 11/18/2008 7:55:53 PM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

The Democrat party chose Biden. Obama’s role has no bearing in Biden’s eligibility. Since there is no “no idiots” clause Joe is qualified.


2,180 posted on 11/18/2008 7:57:43 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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