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To: 1_Rain_Drop

The Democrat party chose Biden. Obama’s role has no bearing in Biden’s eligibility. Since there is no “no idiots” clause Joe is qualified.


2,180 posted on 11/18/2008 7:57:43 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: arrogantsob; 1_Rain_Drop

“The Democrat party chose Biden. Obama’s role has no bearing in Biden’s eligibility. Since there is no “no idiots” clause Joe is qualified.”

Thats about the size of it ...

My take on it would be:

IF, Obama were DQ’d, SCOTUS MIGHT be able to order a new election with verified candidates (but this has not been vetted Constitution-wise). Also it would be VERY expensive and time-consuming. So, I think not.

Or, they could DQ Obama and order the results in the election to be re-certified WITHOUT him as a candidate. Kind of like the Olympic Gold Medal winner being DQ’d for doping - everybody moves up ... Silver to Gold ... Bronze to Silver ... and the 4th place finisher gets the Kewpie Doll (Bronze).

However, I don’t think Biden would be DQ’d as VP - his election was valid.

FYI: I DON’T think McCain would be DQ’d by virtue of the concepts in English Law that children born overseas to citizens in service of the Crown were natural born British citizens. (Source: Blackstone’s Commentaries on English Common Law, the authoritarian reference at the time).

I’ve said it before and I will say it again - this comes down to standing and the concept of “original intent”.

Would the Founding Fathers allow ordinary citizens to demand eligibility verification and what was their concept of “natural born citizen”?

I think that they would demand verification - prior legislatures in the colonies demanded requirements to hold office (such as owning property) and they were easily verifiable.

I also think that their concept of a “natural born” citizen mirrored English Common Law.

You gotta remember that most of the Founding Fathers were educated in England and a lot of them held English law degrees.


2,202 posted on 11/18/2008 8:58:26 PM PST by Lmo56
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