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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


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To: hiho hiho
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:MDqpBIBCfugJ:forums.hannity.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D974091+Ed+Hale+%2B+Birthcertificate&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

That's the link at Hannity.com. Sorry I forgot how to make it live. Here's an edited version

Kenya Birth Certificate Name: Ed Hale Date Posted: Oct 11, 08 - 7:36 PM IP Address: xx.xxx.xx.xxx State your in Texas

Message: I guess the time has come to set the story about Obama Kenya Birth Certificate. I hosted Phil Berg on our No Obama Talk show on August 21, 2008. We then had Phil back on August 28, 2008. At that time I was contacted by one of the HCSFJM member by phone who told me that they were a importer/exporter and they had connection in Kenya. I talked to this person and also talk to Phil about it. We then discussed a plan on how to get the BC to the USA. ...There was 3 copies of the BC sent to the USA via 3 different carries to 3 different people.

...HCSFJM had a member very near Phil and this was the primary target. I received a email on September 14,2008 from our member. The email said "The packages are on their way". I knew that the BC had been secured and was enroute to the USA. 3 days later I received another email that said "The package has been delivered". I knew that our member had deliver the BC to Phil. In addition to Kenya BC, there is 3 certified statement from people who stated they were present when Obama was born. ...

I have had a person who has looked at the "vault" book for Obama original BC form Hawaii. It does not exist.

...All Phil Berg want is to have a court hearing and he will introduce that Kenya BC. I have a copy of that BC but I will not post it till I am cleared by Phil...

...We had security on this that was unbelievable. No it is a matter of time before Phil get into court. Relax Folks, Obama will never be the president of this country as long as we have people who are willing to put their lives on the line for this great country. I will reveal in due time who those 2 great American (HCSFJM member) in due time. They must remain in limbo as of now for their own security.

... Today I am the proudest American alive.

1,581 posted on 11/16/2008 8:03:11 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: pa mom

There is some reason you repeat falsehoods even after they have been shown to be incorrect. Case in point: his mother was a citizen therefore you believe he is. It has been shown she was not of age to pass citizenship to her offspring. That could not have happened unless he was actually born in Hawaii which is a fact in dispute from multiple sources who should know the answer such as his sister, “grandmother” and other relatives. And you refer to the birth announcement indicating place of birth or as if it were part of some farsighted conspiracy when it did not even claim he was born in Hawaii.

And the fraudulent (now withdrawn and redoctored) “proof” was never released in any official capacity or to a disinterested third party for confirmation. Rather it was released through Left Wing Lunatic sites and vouched for by the pseudo-watchdog of the media which has been controlled by Leftists for decades.

These tendencies do not say much for your openminededness.


1,582 posted on 11/16/2008 8:08:22 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Fred Nerks

Toots, typical white woman that she was, kept her pretty well hidden IMO. Such things just weren’t done back then. Particulary to a very bright young girl who hadn’t even dated in high school......Sr should/would have been charged with statutory rape in some states. ANd then there are the nude pictures taken by Frank Davis....How old was she then?


1,583 posted on 11/16/2008 8:09:26 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: thesetruths

The reason I managed to find out so much information is because I had an episode of low blood sugar and as I lost consciousness my right upper arm came down hard on the edge of an end table resulting in a shattered upper right arm. I am right handed and was at a loss of what I could do besides surf the web looking for information and learning as I surfed. The arm is still in bad shape but I sure have learned a lot and am still learning!


1,584 posted on 11/16/2008 8:10:47 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer

Oh! Sorry for that accident!


1,585 posted on 11/16/2008 8:12:38 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: hoosiermama

I see Texas & Virginia also—WND story


1,586 posted on 11/16/2008 8:13:56 PM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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To: seekthetruth

I think that rumour began here:

“...I have received an unverified tip that certified copies of a Kenyan Birth Certificate (BC) for Obama were sent from Kenya, and have been received by three separate individuals. I am told that these documents are certified, with an embossed seal, and display the name of the hospital where Obama was born, as well as witness signatures.

Reportedly this BC reflects information filed Oct. 9 by Philip Berg. See item #18 on this docket...”

http://texasdarlin.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/bohospitalbergdoc.jpg

“We do not currently have any additional confirmation of this new information...”

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/


1,587 posted on 11/16/2008 8:14:05 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: thesetruths

I just think of it as taking one for the team and keep on surfing and learning!


1,588 posted on 11/16/2008 8:14:34 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Boardwalk

This does not surprise me in the slightest given the Treason media’s refusal to carry such incredible stories as the Libyan nuclear research program funded by Saddam and staffed by Iraqi scientists. When Quaddafy turned it all over after the Iraqi invasion it came as a COMPLETE SURPRISE to the entire world and all its intelligence agencies.

Now THAT was a story which could have generated multiple lengthy stories, Pulizer Prizes, etc. But what happened? A brief series of remarks for a week then SILENCE until they could run months and months of putting panties on killers’ heads.

Rather than publicize an incredible and unexpected positive result of Bush’s foreign policy it made sure few would hear of it or understand what happened. If there were any justice the firing squads would be working overtime.


1,589 posted on 11/16/2008 8:16:24 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Chief Engineer

I do not call it the Treason Media for nothing. This is our greatest enemy and will destroy this nation if not itself destroyed.


1,590 posted on 11/16/2008 8:17:39 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: hoosiermama

Interesting. But have heard that Ed Hale does not always tell the truth. In fact, heard he really has some difficulty telling the truth. I don’t know the man, but this is just what I heard.


1,591 posted on 11/16/2008 8:18:19 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: seekthetruth

The Ed Hale story of the Kenyan birth certificates was debunked quite awhile ago.


1,592 posted on 11/16/2008 8:20:08 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: mckenzie7

The Indonesian citizenship angle is a dead end. He was not of age to legally surrender US citizenship. If he was a natural born citizen then nothing Indonesian law says can change that.


1,593 posted on 11/16/2008 8:20:44 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: seekthetruth; hoosiermama

further to the Kenya BC:

Obama Born in Kenya? (New Information) [Update x2]
October 11, 2008 by texasdarlin

Coast Provincial General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya
Update 2, 10/12/08 10:40 AM ET: Since originally posting this story Saturday, Atty. Philip Berg’s office informed us that they cannot discuss this matter due to pending litigation, which is understandable. They also informed us that Berg is NOT collaborating with Ed Hale, moderator of a site, “Hillary Clinton Supporters for John McCain” and host of a radio show. We have had no direct contact with Ed Hale, and have no idea whether he’s truthful or not. Whether or not the “tip” we received is accurate, only time will tell. At this time, we have no further independent verification.


1,594 posted on 11/16/2008 8:20:54 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: arrogantsob

I noticed the media was strangley silent on the yellow cake which was tranported secretly to Canada a few months ago, but what can you expect from a media which essentially chose the two candidates for the election and considers themselves “all knowing, all seeing” except when it comes to the Democrat party? Too many citizens take what the media says as the gospel truth and fail to educate themselves!


1,595 posted on 11/16/2008 8:23:57 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: All

YIKES I forgot the Italic marks....The last part of the post is not my experience it’s from Ed Hale


1,596 posted on 11/16/2008 8:24:25 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: bvw

I like your question... however, the short answer is that I do not know Hawaiian law, therefore I do not have an answer for your question.


1,597 posted on 11/16/2008 8:24:34 PM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: hoosiermama

What is HCFSJM?


1,598 posted on 11/16/2008 8:30:54 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: hoosiermama
ANd then there are the nude pictures taken by Frank Davis....How old was she then?

I have saved copies of those images. My estimation is they were taken before she became pregnant. I'm not yet convinced the only person who may have taken the photographs was FMD. Heck, I've seen nothing in my research that definitely places her in Hawaii when she became pregnant or when the photographs were taken. All dates, all captions to images provided by obama sources are suspect IMO. Anything anecdotal from Abercrombie likewise, he was a buddy of obama snr, visited him in Kenya. Abercrombie follows the narrative of 'Dreams'

We know NOTHING! All we know is how LITTLE we do know. (Obama is an known unknown.)

1,599 posted on 11/16/2008 8:35:01 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: seekthetruth

Would like to know who “discredited Hale”? Not that I support him, but more like it’s a pattern to discredit anyone with factual evidence against you....Look at what they did to Linda Tripp and would have liked to do to Joe the Plumber,and then there are the attacks on Sarah, which may or may not be coming from inside the staff....

Oh well, Time will tell.


1,600 posted on 11/16/2008 8:35:32 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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