Posted on 11/14/2008 12:29:37 PM PST by atlbelle44
It wasn’t a coup. The Donks won because the Republicans have become so horribly bad, and all they can do is waste their time on this non-issue.
The referenced document was pretty long but very comprehensive of the Obama birth scandal.
I suggest that everyone read it to see how the Hawaiian document that Obama has is not the Original certificate and can be issued to a foreign born baby.
Good then. Late but maybe it will get legs.
If Obama and McCain were found to not be “natural born,” as neither were born on US soil, the Libetarian candiate, Barr, could be said to be the rightful president. Of course, Keyes was behind Barr on the overall vote tally, but at least he would be someone the Electoral College would be able to debate over, or the Congress could debate over, if not the Congress in each state, prior to naming its choice for President.
What are you proposing?..... That the XX Amendment, Sec. 3 of the US Constitution just be thown out the window?
That an interesting point, regarding standing. This certainly needs to be pursued from all angles. I look forward to this producing fruit — or for Obama to put on his big-boy clothes, show his papers, and put this issue to bed once and for all. The One just isn’t much of “leader” ... more of “hider”.
No, he’s a Roman Catholic, and he’s not solid. When I first heard him, he was absolutely compelling in his opposition to abortion. But his uncrucified, arrogant ego overcame him completely, he was so egomaniacal that he was unable to form any alliances with anyone, and he became increasingly quixotic in his bizarre, self-referential crusades.
That summarizes years of observation and comment on FR.
Here’s what they call “kooky”:
mms://media1.pahousegop.com/video/170204423.wmv
The 20th Amendment has no standing in this issue.
Obama is our “President-Designate” until the EC votes, and then becomes our “President-Elect”. He’s not our president until he is sworn in, so the 20th Amendment has no bearing.
Besides, Obama would have to die after being sworn in for that amendment to matter. Are you planning something we aren’t aware of?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Keyes should have included the certificate for Selective Service also. Get them both.
Anyone who wants to can talk to the man himself, whenever they want. He’s available twice a week on conference calls. All folks gotta do is ask me.
Those who have availed themselves of this opportunity over many months know beyond doubt that the man you describe is an invention.
Being born on a military base in Panama (which is still US soil, just as an embassy is), versus being born in Kenya (accusation on Obama) are totally different issues.
That’s why I don’t like the fact that they’re giving him (and therefore the NY Times) security briefings already. He’s not the President-Elect until the Electoral College has met and voted.
This was my first post on here, sorry it wasn’t a little easier to follow, and I totally messed up the links too!
I think Keyes may have some standing on this. Plus he names all of the electorate’s in the suit as well. Should be interesting to follow. If he doesn’t have standing then who does?
McCain has already been vetted. Even though he was not born on US soil, his father was stationed in Panama, I believe. Military personnel that are stationed out of the country that have children, the child is still viewed as a citizen..........something like that.
Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
Why would President Bush, who has access to the best intelligence resources on the planet, collude with a candidate from the opposition party on the transfer of presidential power? Why wouldn't just one republican from the VP, House, Senate, or even Governors raise this an issue? What's stopping McCain or Palin from coming forward? You have to either believe this suit has no merit or believe the entire republican party, including the president is in on it. Just doesn't pass the moonbat test.
Tossing out a black, elected president combined with a disintegrating economy and financial chaos would pretty much complete our transition to the new Argentina.
I can understand why Berg is confident to the point of being dismissive....obama doesn’t make the suit(s) go away because he can’t. He isn’t bothering to countersue because he’d have to prove it anyway.
Berg said if obama team ignores the Dec 1 deadline for a response, then the next best shot is to get 1 congresman and 1 senator to petition for hearings.
I don’t know the path of Keyes and other suits, but at some point the volume of these suits will get larger media attention. I suspect they are already loaded to counterfire Berg and defend their idol obama.
They should throw it out based on his false claim to be an ambassador.
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