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Illegal immigrant shooter recently cited for carrying a concealed weapon
The Examiner ^ | 10 November 2008 | Freeman Klopott

Posted on 11/10/2008 6:18:34 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother

Just weeks before police say an illegal immigrant and alleged MS-13 gang member shot and killed a 14-year-old Silver Spring boy, the 20-year-old man was charged with concealing a dangerous weapon by a Montgomery County police officer, court records show.

The citation was issued on Oct. 3, a little less than a month before police say Hector Hernandez — an El Salvadoran illegal immigrant living in Takoma Park — opened fire on a Montgomery County bus, killing Tai Lam and wounding two other teens, ages 14 and 15.

Hernandez was with four or five other alleged gang members when he got on the bus in Silver Spring, police said. Other arrests are likely.


El Salvadoran illegal immigrant Hector Hernandez

Calls to a spokesman for Montgomery County Executive Ike Leggett were not returned.

(Excerpt) Read more at dcexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: criminalaliens; elsalvador; gangs; guns; illegals; ms13
Montgomery County Maryland policy prohibits the county police from checking the immigration status of people detained for law breaking.

“Here again is another example of people living in Maryland not being protected by the police,” Botwin said (Brad Botwin, founder of anti-illegal immigration group Help Save Maryland)

Mr. Hernandez lives at 8604 Flower Avenue, an address well known to police as the one-time headquarters of Kofi Orleans-Lindsay. Orleans-Lindsay was a drug dealer and cold-blooded cop killer. He is currently serving a life sentence for his crimes.

1 posted on 11/10/2008 6:18:35 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother
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To: Tennessee Nana; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; trooprally

Can we expect more of the same now that Zero is taking over?


2 posted on 11/10/2008 6:20:18 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Hey Zero you are a Marxist!)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Yes.


3 posted on 11/10/2008 6:25:42 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

And the reason they didn’t deport this criminal thug? I’d sure like to hear an explanation from the liberal who decided to let illegals stay even after they are charged with a crime! I’m pro-immigration, but I’d prefer to welcome those who enter legally rather than welcoming criminals and thugs.


4 posted on 11/10/2008 6:27:00 AM PST by MathDoc (Support The Affirmative Action President as enthusiastically as the media supported Bush!)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

There were some Charles Bronson movies...aww never mind.


5 posted on 11/10/2008 6:27:13 AM PST by VR-21
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Now if he was cited,I’m pretty sure the officers found out that he was an illegal. My question is why in world was he on the streets. Should have been in jail or deported. If the cops did their damn job, that boy would be alive and the other two wouldn’t be injured.


6 posted on 11/10/2008 6:30:30 AM PST by jleibyUSMC (Obama stands against all my bretheren and I fought to preserve.......... Semper fi)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

It will be worse...


7 posted on 11/10/2008 6:31:18 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Was the victim the son of a congressman?

No?

Move along.


8 posted on 11/10/2008 6:34:02 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Not to worry, if his lawyers can hold out until January he might be moved to the head of the citizenship line. Naw, better yet remaining an illegal he’ll only get his wrist slapped and a little vacation back down south to see his cousins.


9 posted on 11/10/2008 6:36:09 AM PST by itsthejourney (mtbopfuyn has risen from the ashes)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
Wonder if he voted for BHO? If they are not allowed to ask for immigration status, were the allowed to ask if he was a legal voter?

Oh well, no need to ask that question any more because now under BHO, all these poor misunderstood, persecuted illegal aliens who just come to America to better themselves, will become legal with no questions asked.

10 posted on 11/10/2008 6:39:53 AM PST by Glacier Honey (`)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

I know that area well and would only go there heavily armed. All of Maryland has declined but especially these two counties bordering D.C. I fled there over 20 years ago and am damned glad I did.


11 posted on 11/10/2008 6:50:45 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

“Can we expect more of the same now that Zero is taking over?”

Yes. Because they work “cheap”.


12 posted on 11/10/2008 7:15:32 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
There are plenty of reports of gang violence south of the border. According to this Daily Telegraph Article:
Since January, more than 1,300 people have been killed in execution-style hits or gunned down in fire fights, which often rage for hours in broad daylight and turn residential neighbourhoods into war zones. If the trend continues, 2008 will top last year's toll of 2,500 deaths in drug-related killings.
You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.

Americans are regularly abused. According to this article entitled US Warns Tourists of 'Small-Unit Combat' at Mexico Border -- Murder and kidnapping of Americans has become routine all along the US Mexican border. According to the State Department sometimes heavily armed attackers wear the uniforms of the Mexican police or military. According to Mexicans their military has even become part of the problem. The US Border Patrol has complained to the Bush administration about Mexican military incursions to no avail.

If there is silence about events at the border. The silence about killings north of the border is deafening. And yet....

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.

But is it true?

Yes, according Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa.When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs. One woman in San Francisco who had her family killed by an illegal is even demanding the city to drop its sanctuary city status. Illegals themselves have become the targets of kidnappers Mexican style in Arizona where drug money from south of the border is often parked.

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. If you check the links you'll notice that its McCain who cites Chertoff. See also here and here Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens. The Center For Immigration Studies has provided a detailed account of the illegal alien gang problem

Oh there's one other cost of illegals that has gone generally unnoticed. Calling the Old Media: Five Million Illegals Have Illegal Mortgages in U.S.A.!

MALKIN: Illegal immigrant factor

Once again its helpful to provide some maps and stats: Look at the map where those who owe more than the house is worth. Notice any similarities to the unemployment picture and concentrations of illegals


13 posted on 11/10/2008 7:21:04 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Could there be some kind of conspiracy to let illegal immigrants into the country and arm them?

I can almost hear some liberal freak calling for gun control to stop this happening. It makes you wonder what they’re up to.


14 posted on 11/10/2008 7:31:29 AM PST by UnfinishedWork
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Too bad there wasn’t a Bernie Getz on the bus, but then, he would have been the one the police would be looking for instead of the ms-13 members.

You do remember Bernie, don’t you?


15 posted on 11/10/2008 7:38:29 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Life in sanctuary communities is very tenuous. The liberal rulers of Montgomery County clearly regard the nonexistent “rights” of illegal alien criminals as more important than the very lives of their decent, law abiding citizens. This is a clear case of dereliction of duty by the Montgomery County Police. If the Chief had an ounce of decency, he would resign forthwith.


16 posted on 11/10/2008 7:59:46 AM PST by Godwin1
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

It’s idiots like that guy why I’m getting a concealed carry license before Obambi gets his dirty little fingers in that pie.


17 posted on 11/10/2008 11:45:23 AM PST by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Goetz


18 posted on 11/10/2008 12:21:55 PM PST by Deo volente (On January 20, 2009 America moves to DEFCON 2.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


19 posted on 11/11/2008 3:08:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxiG56M-eU)
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