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U.S. vows to back off if fighters use Afghan civilians as cover
CNN ^ | 11/9/2008

Posted on 11/09/2008 11:48:30 AM PST by james500

U.S. forces in Afghanistan will "back off" from firing at insurgents if the fighters are using civilian buildings as cover, the U.S. commander in eastern Afghanistan told CNN.

"I've given direct guidance, and so has my boss to me, that if there's any doubt at all that the enemy is firing from a house or building where there might be women and children, that we'll just back off," Maj. Gen. Jeffrey Schloesser, the commanding general of the 101st Airborne Division, told CNN's Barbara Starr.

"That potentially is something that we did not do before, but now because of this increased emphasis, we are doing," he said in an interview at an outpost in Afghanistan's Paktika province near the Pakistani border.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; aforceofdhimmis; anarmyofdhimmis; armyofappeasement; failure; humanshield; oef; surrender; taliban; terrorists; usasurrendermonkeys; weareallfrenchnow; wot
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To: 353FMG

No. The government does not bother to extend this courtesy to American citizens NOT ENGAGED IN TERRORISM, but under seige in their homes, even with children present. Recall Ruby Ridge and Waco?

The press has more sympathy for foreign terrorists (and the innocent civilians who serve tea and cookies to those “using them as human shields” - after joining them in 5x daily prayer and washing them) than innocent Americans anyway. The government has apparently accepted the same policy.


21 posted on 11/09/2008 12:11:27 PM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: james500

We may as well just wrap the whole thing up and come home. Why should we waste the lives of our soldiers when they are there for a specific reason. We’re supposed to be there because the Taliban were sheltering the people that killed 3000 of our CIVILIANS! Why stay when we can’t fight back?


22 posted on 11/09/2008 12:13:51 PM PST by germanicus
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To: james500

Big mistake to further tie our Troops hands.

Bigger mistake to announce it to our enemies.

Why not just send them all of our strategies, so they don’t get hurt?

Patton, MacArthur, Eisenhower, Bradley, Westmoreland, Pershing, all the great Generals we have had the Honor to see produced, must be rolling in their graves today.


23 posted on 11/09/2008 12:14:11 PM PST by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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To: james500

Check your source, please.

CNN?

Ring any bells? Like snuff videos of AlQ snipers killing US soldiers?

Just label this thread as total BS and save us all a little aggravation, anyway. If any US military officer would actually speak to CNN, let alone come up with a line of crap like this, he’d have to request immediate transfer to keep his own troops from accidentally dropping him down the stairs...five or six times.


24 posted on 11/09/2008 12:14:22 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (Nuestro MSM supuesto es simplemente una colección de putas del excedente de mercancías.)
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To: james500
Suxor to be an Afghan civilian.

"Holy carp, Muhammed, we are in a firefight with the great satan's troops."

"Quick, Achmed, run to the civilians, we'll be safe."

"But they are running away."

"Shoot a few and they will stop. Then we'll be safe."

25 posted on 11/09/2008 12:17:44 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Jimmah Carter cubed. Obama, the only man in America who can make Hillary Clinton look good.)
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To: james500
Good grief...

Why not simply announce that the DNC and our closet Muslim President-elect (most Muslims consider and celebrate him as a Muslim) have decided to surrender in the war against Islamic terrorists....

Why not save a lot of blood and treasure, throw up the white flag, salute the Green Flag of Islam and call it quits...

I think I'm going to puke....
I could see this coming -— but 50+% of “americans” are too damned ignorant to recognize their slave masters.

26 posted on 11/09/2008 12:17:46 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: james500

OMG-might as well call it another defeat....any more $$ in this cesspool is a waste of my TAXES....


27 posted on 11/09/2008 12:18:29 PM PST by 1234 (NOBAMA)
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To: james500
The Bush “new tone” strategy which led to collectivist radicals taking over the government.

The only thing these cock roaches fear is superior force. The first "Jihadist" who gets destroyed while using a human shield will be the last. Any sane female/weak male/child will fight back on their own and make it harder to be used as a shield. How idiotic can our leaders get.

28 posted on 11/09/2008 12:20:35 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: james500

I was sure this article was going to be satire.


29 posted on 11/09/2008 12:21:50 PM PST by Nickname
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To: 353FMG

Of course not....look how Waco turned out.


30 posted on 11/09/2008 12:27:02 PM PST by LFOD (IRAQ - Back in Dixie)
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To: james500

This is a Vietnam era mistake. There can be no guarantees of a safe zone or situation for the enemy, or that is what the enemy will use.


31 posted on 11/09/2008 12:39:13 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: All

In fact, the Taliban are the ones that, under the guise and color of Afghan governance DEMANDED this change in policy.

The enemy knew about this decision long before CNN did.


32 posted on 11/09/2008 12:40:40 PM PST by james500
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To: death2tyrants

“Message this sends to bad guys: Hide behind women and children, it works”

We should take great pains not to endanger women and children during combat, there should also be NO quarter for anyone who uses human shields during combat, kill every one of them on the field of battle, if they escape, and can be identified later, hang every last one. This will do much to discourage this craven tactic. This reminds me of a quote. “Golda Meir We can forgive you for killing our sons. But we will never forgive you for making us kill yours” New message, do NOT hide behind women and children, it will get you killed.


33 posted on 11/09/2008 12:55:12 PM PST by Peter Horry (Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)
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To: Peter Horry

This has been their favorite tactic for years....and we have just given it increased strength.


34 posted on 11/09/2008 12:57:45 PM PST by Roamin53 (Islamists kill more people each year in the name of religion than the Inquisition did in 350 years!)
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To: james500

How are we supposed to know the difference, unless the civlians are women and children? They don’t wear uniforms. They dress to blend in. That is one reason why they’re not (supposed to be) covered under the Geneva Convention.


35 posted on 11/09/2008 1:00:44 PM PST by Purrcival (Obama and Biden: The Marx Brothers! (Thanks FReeper Enduring Freedom for the tagline))
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To: james500

When have the terrorist thugs NOT hidden behind women & children? They’re SO brave. (gag)


36 posted on 11/09/2008 1:05:37 PM PST by Just Lori (Liberalism ---->Socialism----->Communism------>BONDAGE!!!!)
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To: james500
If CNN says so it is a slam-dunk truism. /sarc
37 posted on 11/09/2008 1:06:09 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: darkwing104

Vietnamization has just begun...

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Obamination and liberalization
has begun.


38 posted on 11/09/2008 1:09:16 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: james500

Read The Haj by Leon Uris. For centuries moslems have used their places of worship , children and innocents as cover during war time. Truely cowardly.


39 posted on 11/09/2008 1:28:05 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: james500

This is what Liberal ideology does. Could not be an easier way for the enemy to win then just simply use civilians as cover.

The Democrats also did this as a way to help the enemy. Remember all the Democrats who went over as “Human Shields” to try to undermine our forces in action?

What another poster said on here about “we used to carpet bomb”. Back when we took winning seriously.


40 posted on 11/09/2008 1:41:38 PM PST by FTL
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