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Vanity: Electoral College to decide Obama's fate.
Vanity

Posted on 11/05/2008 7:43:12 PM PST by April Lexington

The Electoral College will have the duty to certify that the winner of the "election" is properly qualified to take the oath of office and serve as President of the United States of America. Obama's birth cettificate may be required.


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KEYWORDS: bho2008; certifigate; citizenship; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamatruthfile; obamatruthsquad; vanity
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To: seekthetruth

Read Post 64 ...

What I wrote is what I believe would happen and the most likely scenarios in absence of actual FEC laws providing for this situation..

My reasoning was based upon the actual provisions of the Constitution, the concept of “original intent” that SCOTUS relies upon in absence of actual case law, and common sense.


81 posted on 11/09/2008 8:32:09 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: plain talk

Correct - they had established histories ...

In fact, Chief Justice John Marshall (a Federalist) swore his second cousin, Thomas Jefferson (a Democrat) into office.

And they hated each other’s guts ...


82 posted on 11/09/2008 9:06:21 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: newenglandpatriot
“Have you guys checked out the site www.patriotbrigade.com? Another one is www.freedommarch.org. There are a lot of groups who want the truth about Obama. If he was born here and he’s a legal citizen, then we’re stuck with him, unfortunately. However, the onus is on him to prove that, and if he can’t, he isn’t qualified to serve, and, according to the U.S. Constitution, he CANNOT serve. He would be considered a usurper.”

Thanks for the info on the other sites. I just keep going back to the fact that Obama has spent a great deal of money on lawyers to keep his birth certificate from public view. That alone is what has so many wondering WHY? I do want to see him have to produce the birth certificate. If his birth certificate is valid I also want to see the documents showing that he gave up his Kenyan or Indoneasian citizenship and pledged to the US. In other words, the issue of possible dual citizenship also needs to be resolved.

83 posted on 11/10/2008 4:36:47 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Lmo56; MinuteGal; Matchett-PI

Thanks for helping me understand what is going on. Your post #79 explains what happened with Berg’s motions so well. Thanks again!


84 posted on 11/10/2008 5:02:16 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: April Lexington

Oh geez, do we need a tin foil hat? Post this stuff elsewhere.


85 posted on 11/10/2008 5:06:57 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: jamese777
Hmmm....

Apparently, only Queen Elisabeth has standing. If Obama isn't qualified to take the oath of office, can she get her continent back? s/

Congress has the duty to certify that the candidate is qualified to take office and that the electors have properly elected the person in accordance with the Constitution. They take an oath to uphold the constitution.

If Obama doesn&rsquo't produce evidence that he is qualified, this issue won't go away and it will haunt his presidency. Every bad decision or mistake (almost every day of any presidency, depending on who's side one is on) will highlight the fact that he is illegitimate in the office.

ONE WONDERS WHY HE WON'T PUT THIS SIMPLE ISSUE TO REST BY SHOWING A CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE THE BC WHILE IN CLOSED SESSION. THEY CAN LOOK AND CERTIFY HIS ELECTION AND NEVER DISCLOSE THAT HE'S PINK FRANK'S SON!!! (OR, WAS IT FIDEL, OR ....)

86 posted on 11/10/2008 2:42:53 PM PST by April Lexington
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To: Lmo56
This issue goes to the core of our Constitution. If the express citizenship provision isn’t enforced, which other provisions can be ignored at will. It would be useful for the citizens to know which provisions of the Constitution are enforceable and which aren't.

As we enter a much more diversified era in our history, citizenship of any president becomes more important and will certainly arise in the future. The SCOTUS has the opportunity to clarify administration of this Constitutional provision. Even if hugely unpopular with the majority party, the law must be followed. If Barry is qualified, swear him in so he can fail. IF he's not qualified don't swear him in or we trash our Constitution.

Barry has the keys to the White House in his pocket (Hawaiian depository). Show the birth certificate to a Congressional committee in closed session. If it's legitimate, elect and send over to the inauguration department for further processing. This is sooo simple. What is he hiding?

87 posted on 11/10/2008 2:54:55 PM PST by April Lexington
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To: caver

Can you point to any errors in our logic? It would be very helpful if we had your input this week.


88 posted on 11/10/2008 2:57:32 PM PST by April Lexington
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To: newenglandpatriot
www.freedommarch.org ... However, the onus is on him to prove that, and if he can’t, he isn’t qualified to serve, and, according to the U.S. Constitution, he CANNOT serve. He would be considered a usurper

Thanks for the link. I signed up and suggest everyone check out the site. We need better organization in order to make a difference. Somehow I don't think Obama will volunteer his birth certificate.

89 posted on 11/10/2008 4:41:17 PM PST by plain talk
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To: April Lexington

Wow.

Are we nation of men, or a nation of laws?


90 posted on 11/10/2008 9:34:49 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP.)
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To: bootless

You tell me!


91 posted on 11/10/2008 9:53:57 PM PST by April Lexington
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To: April Lexington

The secretarys of state have to certify electors. If they certify electors that they know will vote for an unqualified candidate, they are culpable.

It is their duty to certify that the electors are without controversy.


92 posted on 11/10/2008 9:57:57 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: bootless
Under Obama and the Left, my friend, we are a nation of men so pathetically frightened of losing power that they sh*t all over our Constitution and use their power within our court system to enforce their power grab.

If Obama is unqualified and is inaugurated, I predict the United States of America will collapse into something very ugly. Read history and understand the French Revolution. If the Creepy One had one shred of decency, he'd not flip his opponents the bird, laugh at his own political jokes or withhold his birth certificate. What, as POTUS, has he to lose? Can he not rise to the challenge? This is a very sick mind we are about to swear in...

93 posted on 11/10/2008 9:59:26 PM PST by April Lexington
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To: April Lexington

I thought this story would have died when the Gov. of Hawaii ordered that Obama’s Birth Certificate be sealed.

It seems that if the BC did not exist, it could not have been sealed by the State of Hawaii.


94 posted on 11/10/2008 9:59:45 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: plain talk

Citizens have a duty to uphold the Constitution. There is no ‘process’ for doing this. But it has to be done.

Or are you saying(like a corporatist) since there is no ‘process’ we don’t need to uphold the Constitution anymore?


95 posted on 11/10/2008 10:00:27 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: trumandogz
The point is this: either he is not qualified because of birth or he is not African, but the son of an American radical or someone else. Either way, he's a fraud.

Why is he hiding? How can we trust a leader who hides his qualifications. Is he or is he not legitimate? Just show the certificate and make us look like fools. I dare him!!!!!

How can we live with this crap for 4 years? Oh... he's black and we'd all be embarrassed if he can't serve... Just forget the Constitution. Its a White thang!

96 posted on 11/10/2008 10:04:36 PM PST by April Lexington
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To: hedgetrimmer
“The Secretaries of state have to certify electors. If they certify electors that they know will vote for an unqualified candidate, they are culpable.

It is their duty to certify that the electors are without controversy.”

These folks take an oath to uphold the Constitution before they cast their votes. If they don't do their job, we need to prosecute them for violating the oath. Its like perjury.

97 posted on 11/10/2008 10:08:01 PM PST by April Lexington
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To: caver

If you don’t understand the threat to our Constitution and our rule of law then, yes, you will need a tinfoil hat.


98 posted on 11/10/2008 10:11:17 PM PST by April Lexington
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To: April Lexington

“If you don’t understand the threat to our Constitution and our rule of law then, yes, you will need a tinfoil hat.”

I understand the Constitution and the rule of law, but if yout hink the Electoral College is not going to vote for Obama now, then you need the tinfoil hat.


99 posted on 11/11/2008 2:21:14 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: trumandogz

I thought this story would have died when the Gov. of Hawaii ordered that Obama’s Birth Certificate be sealed.

It seems that if the BC did not exist, it could not have been sealed by the State of Hawaii.


It is not true that the Governor of Hawaii sealed Obama’s vault copy of his birth certificate. The director of the State of Hawaii health department spoke to the media a week ago Friday and confirmed that she and the Recorder of Vital Records had personally viewed the Certificate and they verified that it is genuine. The Director then stated that Obama’s birth certificate has been treated no differently than anyone elses certificate. Hawaii law forbids anyone except the person named or their designees from obtaining a copy of the document.
That’s the law.
http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news


100 posted on 11/11/2008 7:36:14 AM PST by jamese777
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