Posted on 10/28/2008 9:44:32 AM PDT by Bushite
These were conducted Oct. 23,24,25
Bucks County: O: 49 M: 43 2004 Results: K: 51 B: 48
Allegheny: O: 52 M: 42 2004 Results: K: 57 B: 42
Erie: O: 50 M: 43 2004 Results: K: 54 B: 45
York: M: 57 O: 39 2004 Results: B: 63 K: 35
Montgomery: O: 51 M: 39 2004 Results: K: 55 B: 44
What is B and K??
1.) From where did you get the numbers?
2.) Party ID breakdown is?
Not good. M trailing Bush everywhere.
So what’s it mean? Looks to me like Obama is underperforming in blue counties and overperforming in red counties.
Well, if the undecideds break to McCain, he could make up the 2% from 2004 he needs pretty easily. However, if they break evenly, he is pretty much screwed.
uhh.......”Burger” and “King”
Zero trailing Kerry everywhere but York as well. Undecideds tend to break against the black candidate historically.
That's because the 2004 results encompass the undecideds. These poll numbers do not include them.
-ccm
Bush and Kerry.
That's because the 2004 results encompass the undecideds. These poll numbers do not include them.
-ccm
Not so fast. Notice O trails K most everywhere as well. There seem to be more “undecideds” this time. That is very good, IMO.
Bush..and Kerry.
Only in Bucks, and that’s only 3 points off. Everywhere else is similar to 2004, meaning its close. If the #s are real that is. Where do they come from?
There’s room here. But it’s a tight, tight window.
Eh. These numbers look like we’ll lose PA by the same margins as 2004. :(
You’re missing the point. Obama isn’t doing as well as Kerry did against Bush, except in York County. This is bad news for Obama, because it’s largely blue counties.
ping
If true, these are very good numbers. Obama is trailing Kerry except in York. When you factor in undecideds and the Bradley Effect, I think McCain ultimately outperforms Bush.
O is also trailing K everywhere. Which means there are a lot of undecideds.
What county is Phil in?
The percent breakdown is O= 48%, Mac almost 45%.
I think that is GREAT news !!! Not the 11+ points we’ve been hearing and it explains why both campaigns are all over PA.
Source?
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