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1 posted on 10/28/2008 9:44:32 AM PDT by Bushite
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To: Bushite

What is B and K??


2 posted on 10/28/2008 9:46:31 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Bushite

1.) From where did you get the numbers?
2.) Party ID breakdown is?


3 posted on 10/28/2008 9:46:32 AM PDT by TitansAFC (In 2008, please vote GOP and show us that you love your country more than you hate John McCain)
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Not good. M trailing Bush everywhere.


4 posted on 10/28/2008 9:46:38 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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So what’s it mean? Looks to me like Obama is underperforming in blue counties and overperforming in red counties.


5 posted on 10/28/2008 9:46:43 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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Well, if the undecideds break to McCain, he could make up the 2% from 2004 he needs pretty easily. However, if they break evenly, he is pretty much screwed.


6 posted on 10/28/2008 9:47:07 AM PDT by wastedpotential (Proud to be in McCain country in the Buckeye State)
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Eh. These numbers look like we’ll lose PA by the same margins as 2004. :(


16 posted on 10/28/2008 9:50:26 AM PDT by snarkytart
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Chatted with a pollologist to make hide or hair of those numbers, and apparently it all comes down to Obamao’s margins in Philly, if it is below 400k and 80% of the vote, McCain can win PA, if Philly goes 80% for Obamao, it is a tough tough job to win PA.

Basically, McCain has to keep it reasonably close in Philly, and he has to up the margins that Bush got in the rural areas.


21 posted on 10/28/2008 9:51:40 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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So if the polls are correct, Obama is doing about the same as Kerry did in 2004, maybe slightly better. It’s going to hinge on McCain doing better in Philly than Republicans usually do, or Obama doing worse in terms of turnout.


25 posted on 10/28/2008 9:53:28 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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okay..I added them up to be simple.

Kerry got 253
Bush got 242

So far

Obama is getting 241
McCain is getting 234

For McCain that’s -7 from Bush’s numbers.
For Obama that’s -12 from Kerry’s numbers.

I’m probably all wrong here..LOL
Someone double check me!


27 posted on 10/28/2008 9:56:17 AM PDT by snarkytart
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26 posts and we haven’t yet established where these polling #’s come from?


29 posted on 10/28/2008 9:56:26 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: Bushite

Who are you and where did you get these numbers?


34 posted on 10/28/2008 9:59:46 AM PDT by jveritas
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To: Bushite

where do these numbers come from?


37 posted on 10/28/2008 10:00:44 AM PDT by Katonah1980 ( toss up.)
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Interesting figures.

Allegheny looks good, to be expected.
I’d assume Luzerne and Lackawanna would look good.
The rest of South West would look good.

South Central (York, as well as Lancaster, Cumberland, Dauphin) might be a problem. Obama did pretty well there in the primary, and Ron Paul did pretty well there.


39 posted on 10/28/2008 10:02:39 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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Someone tell me, are these numbers discouraging or encouraging?


43 posted on 10/28/2008 10:04:48 AM PDT by babydubya1981 (Homeschooling Moms for McCain/Palin 08)
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Bucks County numbers surprise me.


46 posted on 10/28/2008 10:06:29 AM PDT by Heff (Half this country is that stupid.)
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BO is campaigning in the rain in PA. That’s all I know and all I need to know=BO is running scared!


63 posted on 10/28/2008 10:15:15 AM PDT by lonestar
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Living in Erie, I don’t buy that poll. I think McCain will take Erie county and I daresay he may even take Allegheny county.


70 posted on 10/28/2008 10:19:54 AM PDT by killer_rat
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York county is the most troubling, but the best news is McCain is 5 points closer than Bush got in vote-rich Allegheny County.

If undecideds continue to break for McCain, he could pull it off yet.

73 posted on 10/28/2008 10:21:13 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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Blue County: O underperformance

Bucks: -2
Allegheny: -5
Erie: -4
Montgomery: -4


84 posted on 10/28/2008 10:33:58 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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This is fantastic news, if you crunch the numbers.

In agggregate - for these counties in 2004 - Kerry won 56.4% of the vote to Bush’s 43.6%.

If these poll numbers are accurate (big “if”) and if the undecideds split evenly, that implies Obama at 53.5% and McCain at 46.5% in aggregate for these counties.

That’s a swing from a 12.8% D advantage to a 7% D advantage, or a 5.8% net swing.

Kerry only won PA by 2.5% in 2004. If McCain is outperforming Bush at these levels statewide, he wins. Easily.


91 posted on 10/28/2008 10:50:52 AM PDT by ex-Libertarian
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