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Newsmax Covering Birth Certificate Story on Front Page
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Posted on 10/24/2008 4:31:37 PM PDT by zaker99

A Pennsylvania lawsuit alleging that Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” of the United States took an unusual twist this week, after a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers. FULL STORY

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: antichrist; bc; berg; bergvobama; birthcertificate; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; colb; eligibility; lawsuit; obama; obamacrimes; obamagate; obamatruthfile; philipberg; surrick
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To: ASA Vet

I wonder why Rush, Sean, and Savage waited so long to bring this up?


41 posted on 10/24/2008 5:11:26 PM PDT by MikeFrancesa.com (www.war69.com)
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To: Klepto

From a professional point of view, the distinction ought to be “procedural” vs. “substantive”. “Procedural” doesn’t mean unimportant (as some may think). As I pointed out, the seriousness of failing to comply with this discovery rule is the consequence that follows.

While some of the claims about Obama’s citizenship and paternity seem a bit flakey, the behavior of Team O on this issue is baffling. Complying with the discovery request and putting this issue to rest is easy. I can’t imagine what is driving this on the O side unless they have something embarassing or worse hidden somewhere.

On the other hand, do they want to let these rumors bubble to the surface next week so that they can finally produce a legitimate Hawaii birth certificate in the hope of generating scepticism about other more well founded claims against him and his campaign? And what about the Indonesian citizenship issue - if that is a real issue, why isn’t it getting more attention from our side? Questions, questions, questions....


42 posted on 10/24/2008 5:12:03 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: zaker99
Here is one of the keys.

“There are lots of legal ways to stonewall,” a well-placed Republican attorney told Newsmax, who was not authorized to comment officially on the case. “But failing to respond is not one of them.”

That sums things up. Why are they failing to respond? It is required by the Constitution.

43 posted on 10/24/2008 5:19:10 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: tomkat; Doug TX

I was about to post my own reply which was also a ditto of yours.


44 posted on 10/24/2008 5:19:15 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: MikeFrancesa.com
I wonder why Rush, Sean, and Savage waited so long to bring this up?

They probably waited to get some independent confirmation so they'd not end up appearing to be kooks. (Well, except for Savage who thrives on being considered nuts.)

45 posted on 10/24/2008 5:22:24 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: goldstategop
That's an admission to the truth of all the charges. I guess the original unaltered long vault birth certificate copy doesn't actually exist.

Obama's polling shows this election slipping away. No hope for recovery. Even the LDM (lap dog media) can't win it for him. And, it's evident now that he won't forever be able to avoid questions about his qualifications to hold the highest office in the land.

Expect to witness odd behavior by him over the next few days leading up to Election Day. Almost as if he's throwing the election. By losing, he won't ever have to answer the question honestly about his BC - and won't ever be charged with fraud, mail fraud and a hundred other crimes that the truth would expose him to.

Maybe he and Axelfraud can construct some scenario that makes it look like he was unfairly robbed of the presidency and he can peddle his victimhood to an ever greater fortune. But he will never run again for the presidency.

46 posted on 10/24/2008 5:22:45 PM PDT by BlueYonder
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To: library user
I'm sending this story to as many people and newspapers as I can. I have also sent it to the secretary of state of Cal and the registrar of voters asking them to check the candidates qualifications.

I hold out hope that there could become a wildfire over this issue.

47 posted on 10/24/2008 5:25:20 PM PDT by nufsed
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To: BlueYonder

Exactly like Kerry’s military records.


48 posted on 10/24/2008 5:26:01 PM PDT by nufsed
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To: zaker99

I believe that political correctness is the only reason that normally sane people are not feverishly seeking the truth about this story. It is up to every red-blooded American to defend the Constitution! If we aren’t going to uphold our laws then we shouldn’t have them in the first place. The Constitution specifies the qualifications for President. As citizens and voters we have an obligation to determine whether or not these qualifications are met. If we back down from those who refuse to produce evidence of those qualifications-—if we fail to hold them accountable-—then we are failing to protect our own government.


49 posted on 10/24/2008 5:26:05 PM PDT by Faith
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To: BlueYonder
By losing, he won't ever have to answer the question honestly about his BC - and won't ever be charged with fraud, mail fraud and a hundred other crimes that the truth would expose him to.

Such as unlawfully being sworn in as a U.S. Senator?

50 posted on 10/24/2008 5:27:04 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: ASA Vet
Such as unlawfully being sworn in as a U.S. Senator?

Bingo.

51 posted on 10/24/2008 5:28:23 PM PDT by Faith
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To: zaker99
However, the 2007 document produced by the Obama campaign omits key information that normally appears on birth certificates in the United States, including the name of the hospital where he was born, the size and weight of the baby, and sometimes the name of the doctor who delivered him.

In addition, the critics of the 2007 document note that Obama's father is described as "African," a term used today. The formal language in official documents at the time - 1961 - would have identified his race as "Negro" or "Colored."

They still don't know about the history of the fake birth certificate.

52 posted on 10/24/2008 5:28:33 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: achilles2000

Oh don’t misunderstand me, I am not defending Obama just trying to analyze the case. (old habit).

In any event, I read the pleadings just now and this motion is pending in the court (Obama Motion to Suspend Discovery pending a ruling on the Motion to Dismiss):

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/15/

The court has not ruled on this. However, Obama will not be required to respond to the Request for Admissions, or any other discovery, until such time as the Court rules on this request so there is no breach of the Rule. If Obama had just ignored it, it would be a breach but the court would still likely not rule for the Plaintiff. however, with this pending motion, the Defendant (Obama) is covered on the Request for Admissions issue.

That part is pretty cut and dried.

Of course this does not address the issue of “standing” or the underlying merits of the case. That is another issue for “,aybe” another day.


53 posted on 10/24/2008 5:30:45 PM PDT by Klepto
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To: Williams
It is true that failure to respond to a PROPER request for admission can be treated as an admission. However, Obama’s lawyers filed a motion to dismiss this case. That means they have never had to answer the complaint.

Discovery rules still apply. The Motion to Dismiss does not supercede it.

54 posted on 10/24/2008 5:32:03 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: goldstategop
That's an admission to the truth of all the charges. I guess the original unaltered long vault birth certificate copy doesn't actually exist.

You got it right. There are no birth records for Obama anywhere in the US.

55 posted on 10/24/2008 5:33:19 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: zaker99
after a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers

Does this mean he is in contempt of the court order..?

56 posted on 10/24/2008 5:34:17 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: Doug TX
The reason you see thread after thread after thread on this topic (and prob others) is because this BB is not designed to keep hot topics at the top so they are constantly reintroduced

Yep. As much as I love Free Republic I strongly agree. What you have hit on is a foundational flaw of the Free Republic web site. And then everyone whines about multiple posts and Free Republic moderators constantly have to perform manual work to delete redundant posts because of a poorly deisgned site. Unnecessary.

57 posted on 10/24/2008 5:34:31 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: zaker99

This is the elephant in every newsroom in America and it’s only entertained by the conservative blogs so far .


58 posted on 10/24/2008 5:36:19 PM PDT by lionheart 247365 ((Socialism . . . a catalyst for apathy on the road to communism ))
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To: library user

Fox News’s streaming online STRATEGY ROOM has discussed it briefly the past two days but even the conservatives on the panel say it is a non issue.


59 posted on 10/24/2008 5:38:51 PM PDT by PISANO
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To: Klepto

Maybe the 0 will be taken off of the ballot in PA. Can he win without PA?


60 posted on 10/24/2008 5:42:24 PM PDT by sportutegrl (0bi has been looking a little wan.)
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