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Joe the Plumber target of Arizona (his Drivers License is suspended)
east valley tribune ^ | 10/17/08 | Daniel Newhauser

Posted on 10/17/2008 6:04:32 PM PDT by machogirl

Joe the Plumber's' AZ driver license suspended Comments 6 | Recommend 4 Daniel Newhauser, For the Tribune

A plumbing license is not the only license "Joe the Plumber" is having troubles with.

The former Mesa resident has a suspended driver's license and outstanding court fines in Arizona, according to Mesa Municipal Court records.

"Joe," whose real name is Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, was referred to more than 20 times by Republican Sen. John McCain in Wednesday night's presidential debate for questioning Democratic Sen. Barack Obama's tax policy.

The man portrayed by McCain to be the typical, hardworking American revealed this week that he actually does not have a plumbing license, and now court records show he should not have a driver's license either, making it potentially even harder for him to get to work.

Wurzelbacher, who lived in Mesa in 2000 and had an Arizona driver's license, had his driver's license suspended by the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division on May 4, 2000, following a nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations, according to court records.

America's new political icon, who owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes, according to public records, still owes more than $700 to the Mesa court system.

Records show he was cited for failure to stop at a red light and for failure to provide proof of insurance on Feb. 9, 2000, in a black Dodge truck at the intersection of Dobson and Baseline roads in Mesa.

After failing to pay his original fine of $627.50 issued in March 2000, his license was suspended and the fine was handed over to a collection agency along with a 16 percent surcharge. The now-resident of Holland, Ohio, still owes $727.90 to the Mesa Municipal Court, according to court records.

Nevertheless, Wurzelbacher's driver's license is still valid in Ohio, according to the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles, and was renewed as recently as May 2005. Ohio law requires a license to be renewed every four years, meaning Wurzelbacher likely obtained an Ohio license in 2001, one year after having his Arizona license suspended.

With a suspended license in one state, it should not be possible to get a new license in another, said Cydney DeModica, spokeswoman for the Arizona MVD.

The only way "Joe the Plumber" could have slipped through the cracks is a clerical error in which his driving records were not entered into the Problem Driver Pointer System, the national database of information about people with a checkered driving past, said Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles spokeswoman Lindsay Komlanc.

Komlanc added if the Ohio BMV were to receive the information, appropriate action could be taken, including suspension of his Ohio license.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: brownshirtmedia; brownshirts; demsmearmachine; dontquestiontheone; election; enemedia; fascistmedia; joetheplumber; joetheplummer; leftwingconspiracy; marxismonparade; mccain; mediabias; stalinistpress; waronjoe; wurzelbacher
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To: machogirl
BOSTON GLOBE - Obama Finally Pays His 17 Parking Tickets in '06 Just Before Running for Senate

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141 posted on 10/17/2008 6:30:35 PM PDT by what's up
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To: indylindy

Yep, when teaching little kids to get them back on task, it’s called redirection.

Of course, msm is happy to comply.


142 posted on 10/17/2008 6:30:50 PM PDT by machogirl (alan colmes gives me a headache)
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To: machogirl

“With a suspended license in one state, it should not be possible to get a new license in another, said Cydney DeModica, spokeswoman for the Arizona MVD.

The only way “Joe the Plumber” could have slipped through the cracks is a clerical error in which his driving records were not entered into the Problem Driver Pointer System, the national database of information about people with a checkered driving past, said Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles spokeswoman Lindsay Komlanc.

Komlanc added if the Ohio BMV were to receive the information, appropriate action could be taken, including suspension of his Ohio license. “

What a bunch of crap. The fine is outrageous I would not pay it either. Plus I have never heard of interstate agreements on driver license suspensions. Perhaps for DUI or habitual criminal traffic violations. But certainly not for one missed red light and failure to show proof of insurance. Mind you it does not say Joe did not have insurance just that he could not prove it.

If they suspend this guy’s Ohio license because of fines in Arizona we might as well stop all pretense of their being separate States with their own governance and admit we are now the UASR ( United American Socialist Republic).

The media should be ashamed of themselves. They are not willing to scrutinize Obama’s answer to this man’s very honest question. Instead they are trying to destroy his life. This is what we can expect for all our lives should Obama be elected. Screw him and the horse he rode in on.


143 posted on 10/17/2008 6:30:56 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: GerardKempf

HUH

The question is about obama spreading the wealth and the media not looking into obama but out to destroy a normal man.

he has problems like everyone, so what I can relate to him and so can most of America

why is Joe being done by the media and obama isn’t get looked at

remember spread the wealth


144 posted on 10/17/2008 6:31:01 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: wiseprince

I was mocking up something like that last night, but life got in the way...THAT was exactly what I was going to do...


145 posted on 10/17/2008 6:31:04 PM PDT by rlmorel (Who is Saul Alinsky and why is Barack Obama a disciple of his methods?)
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To: machogirl

The issue here is the answer, not the one asking the question.


146 posted on 10/17/2008 6:31:10 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: lonevoice

Biden was arrested during college for entering an all women’s dormitory.


147 posted on 10/17/2008 6:31:35 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (John and Sarah are gonna change the plumbing in Washington!)
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To: scooby321

“How did he get the money to buy a car ?”

I don’t know. A Saudi oil baron? Ebezzled welfare benefits? Al Capone?


148 posted on 10/17/2008 6:32:11 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: yldstrk

Quite a lot of “undocumented” are driving around here without any license. The media doesn’t seem to care about that. Even when they drive drunk and kill someone.

I really like the response on michelle malkin.

Joe the plumber isn’t unlicensed, he’s “undocumented”.


149 posted on 10/17/2008 6:32:35 PM PDT by machogirl (alan colmes gives me a headache)
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To: manc

My wife and I are seriously considering moving our family from the Portland, OR area to Denver, CO.

It depends on what happens with my job at this point. Of course, I was raised in Montana, and even that state has a Dem majority in their state politics.


150 posted on 10/17/2008 6:32:47 PM PDT by Carling (Obama: He Hates Plumbers)
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To: what's up
“Media...DO YOUR JOB!!!”

The modern media is BIG CORPORATE money supporting the most Left leaning candidate in US history. The idea of a “Fourth Estate” or free press protecting the liberty of Americans from tyranny is a quaint and nostalgic fantasy.

So... why do THESE corporations get to make obvious political contributions in the form of air time, talking heads, etc. Corporate contributions are illegal in the US. If they pick a candidate and support a candidate its a contribution.

151 posted on 10/17/2008 6:32:50 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: scooby321

Whoops, I mean “Embezzled.”


152 posted on 10/17/2008 6:32:55 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: taraytarah
-- How about flooding these hypocritical news sources with emails and phone calls telling them to "lay off Joe" with every negative article, broadcast, etc.? --

I'd rather the media tear him down very publicly, than do it in secret. By doing their dirty work publicly, those who are watching can identify the skunks.

153 posted on 10/17/2008 6:33:40 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: wiseprince

Joe needs to make more money. Taxing him isn’t going to get the fines paid.


154 posted on 10/17/2008 6:33:45 PM PDT by machogirl (alan colmes gives me a headache)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Yep, but if you are “undocumented” you walk.


155 posted on 10/17/2008 6:34:31 PM PDT by machogirl (alan colmes gives me a headache)
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To: machogirl

Still no word from the homosexual maggots about Mahoney huh?


156 posted on 10/17/2008 6:35:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I'm just going to spread YOUR wealth around - Barack HUSSEIN Obama.)
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To: linli36; elkfersupper

Agree with your posts.


157 posted on 10/17/2008 6:35:13 PM PDT by machogirl (alan colmes gives me a headache)
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To: machogirl

Joe’s being punished for thinking for himself, something Obama can’t do.


158 posted on 10/17/2008 6:36:10 PM PDT by lilycicero (Freepers keep your spine.)
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To: GerardKempf

I respectfully disagree with you. I know lots of hard working people who have had a tax lien or something go wrong in their life.

Hell, that’s the traditional Democrat voter base.

For the media to attack this guy over stuff that’s not terribly uncommon just makes him a traditional blue collar voter who may not have his life in 100% order.

Are you going to fault him for having gone through a divorce too?

As far as I’m concerned this makes Joe the Plumber more REAL. This will backfire on the Obama camp. You don’t want Joe the Plumber to be the running news story.


159 posted on 10/17/2008 6:36:11 PM PDT by rom (Keep Senator Government from Spreading YOUR Wealth! McCain/Palin '08!)
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To: SaveTheChief

I still want to know how barry got into pakistan in 1981, for three weeks and WHAT DID HE DO?


160 posted on 10/17/2008 6:36:13 PM PDT by machogirl (alan colmes gives me a headache)
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