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What If McCain Loses?
Pajamas Media ^ | October 17, 2008 | John Hawkins

Posted on 10/17/2008 7:31:37 AM PDT by AJKauf

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To: ClearCase_guy

If Obama is elected, there is a very good chance we could end up having “obamavilles” in history textbooks :)


61 posted on 10/17/2008 8:37:16 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: ClearCase_guy
FDR presided over the mess for over a decade, and he (traditionally) gets the credfit for "fixing it" -- which really happened under Eisenhower.

Fixing it happened before Ike became President. It happened under the Hitler and Tojo regimes.

62 posted on 10/17/2008 8:42:25 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: LS
There was a thread here a few days ago -- some guy (a Democrat) was touting the wonders of living in Containers that had been offloaded from Chinese merchant ships. He wanted to sell these things as homes for poor people.

Definite recipe for Obamamville.

63 posted on 10/17/2008 8:43:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
But I don't think Bush will end up looking good.

Depends on the skill of the undertaker... ;) Seriously, while President Bush and family may not get the Nicholas II treatment, I do think the left, with uncontrolled power, will push for a trial, and possible imprisonment...

64 posted on 10/17/2008 8:43:18 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a Constitution...)
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To: workerbee
They can do what is done in other countries: move their transmitters offshore onto mobile platforms and broadcast anyway.

We can bookmark anonymizers and surf the way the Chinese have to: in stealth ID mode.

We can create fax samidazt or we can go back to the 1970s and create mimeographed news broadsides and hand distribute them.

We can totally boycott all government-approved media.

We can adopt rolling passwords/changing identification via clothing/color and pass it on as we pass each other in the street or the grocery aisle. For an example, in Chicago in the 1960s, the police were harassing bar owners for enabling solictitation of prostitution. From a girl who worked in one of these places, I learned that if the word came out via a single coded phone call to the bar, the bartender would place a clean bar towel on the ledge in front of anyone deemed to be a cop and the girls would avoid him. Other employees were briefed on how to identify LEO by clothing labels, shoe styles, haircuts and if those identifiers walked in the door, word went out.

zerO’s backers are young. They will totally rebel if their free access to electronic communication is disturbed. After all these years of freedom of association and free speech in America, it is going to take martial law and a virtual army of informers and minders to shut it down and either way, there will be a huge backlash.

65 posted on 10/17/2008 8:46:16 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Ancesthntr

The traditional view is that WWII pulled us out of the Great Depression while FDR was still in office. I happen to think that the economy was not really healthy even after the war. Eisenhower dismantled parts of the New deal and I think that’s what really got our economy moving again. But Eisenhower gets little credit for that. Instead, people give credit to FDR, Tojo, or Hitler.


66 posted on 10/17/2008 8:46:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
I know the DJIA isn't the whole story but I think it says something that the high of 381.17 on September 3, 1929, was not be surpassed until 1954.
67 posted on 10/17/2008 8:49:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: truthluva

> Well, to be completely honest...we are looking at several loctions outside the country to live and invest until he is outed after four years. I know...I know...that is not supposed to be patriotic.

Mate, if you can’t hang on to the Liberty and Freedom you have, in a land as blessed as America, exactly WHY would any other country want to have you as an immigrant?

NO COUNTRY wants “conservative” refugees from America.

You ARE supposed to be Patriotic. SO STOP OBAMA.


68 posted on 10/17/2008 8:49:48 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: AJKauf

If McCain loses I will be right here in Ct fighting socialists until the day I die.


69 posted on 10/17/2008 8:51:36 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (MSM Lied, Journalism Died. RIP 2008)
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To: nurees
...a Bambi win combined with Dem’s picking up seats will wake up the RINO’s.

If we choose to, we could look at this election as a win-win, no matter which way it goes.

If Obama wins, conservative, right-thinking Americans will revolt in some manner against the attempted Marxist coup of our government. There will be every manner of civil disobedience, from tax revolts to massive protest marches and political organizing. If you thought Bush had opposition from American citizens, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

If McCain wins, then we have one last chance to implement the types of reforms that are needed to steer this country away from its track toward full-blown socialism. However, with a McCain win, we also run the risk that the good folks of this country will go back to sleep while the quiet left-wing coup continues.

Early on in the race, and before Sarah Palin came aboard, I had resigned myself to a McCain loss, and comforted myself in the knowledge that Obama would engender an historic wave of opposition from elected Republicans and the population at large.

Have no doubt, that if Obama should "win" this thing, we ordinary Americans will have to mobilize to save our nation in an unprecedented fashion.

70 posted on 10/17/2008 8:51:36 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: popdonnelly
In general the goal should be to save the Republic, to prevent Obama and his supporters from turning the US into Venezuela Norte. In particular we will need to protect the First Amendment--freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion.

Obama has shown that he can't tolerate criticism and has declared war on Fox News. If he doesn't destroy Fox, he may at least succeed in neutering them so they are indistinguishable from CNN. Expressing opinions could become dangerous--not that he will put people in concentration camps, just destroy them financially. Joe the Plumber is the canary in the coal mine. Churches will be bullied into complying with his agenda--he'll try to force church-affiliated hospitals to perform abortions, and perhaps sic the IRS on churches which speak out againt abortion or the homosexual agenda.

If it weren't for the IRS, churches wouldn't have to be so fearful of the government. The Catholic bishops may have rebuked a few Catholic politicians for supporting abortion, but they can't tell people not to vote for someone who will sweep away any restrictions on abortion because they're afraid of losing their tax-exampt status.

71 posted on 10/17/2008 8:55:10 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I have heard som efolks discussing this and their line of argument (right or wrong) goes something like this: I love America because she is not a socialist or communist country with ridiculous restrictions on freedom.

If Obama gets in with ‘Rat Congresscritters, the country will become socialist/communist.

So, if I have to live in a socialist or communist country, perhaps it’s be amusing to live in one where they have a different accent.

:o)


72 posted on 10/17/2008 8:56:33 AM PDT by delphirogatio (Obama: Narcissistic Personality Disorder on Parade)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Hey, I’ll do my part, but you know as well as I do there are too many fools out there right now that are being sucked into the socialist trap. I do NOT have to settle for socilism...that is a fight for freedom. If at all possible, I will move my family from harm’s way. You may not feel that is patriotic, but if socialism gets it’s filthy hands around the neck of America...well, good look getting rid of it in my lifetime.

You may be surprised about where a “conservative” American can live in this world.


73 posted on 10/17/2008 8:56:44 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Mugambe all over again.....


74 posted on 10/17/2008 8:58:45 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: AJKauf

Heh.. here comes the lullaby..

Go to sleep... You conservatives wont do anything... sleeeeep...

Just let the aholes rape the constitution and your freedom.... Sleeeep.....

Your to “civilized” to do anything about it... just sleeeep....

Personally, im game for whatever action is needed to safeguard the constitution, our freedom and liberty. Im up for ANY action that shuts down the “wealth redistributers” (marxists)forever.


75 posted on 10/17/2008 9:00:13 AM PDT by myself6 (.)
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To: ovrtaxt

They’ll grow a beard, get fat, go around ranting and raving and finally, collapse in a pathetic heap before stocking up on Xanax.”

That describes a number of the New Orleans residents—and they expect us taxpayers to pay for their Xanax


76 posted on 10/17/2008 9:01:08 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: myself6

So do we go the non-violent route and all quit being producers, go on the dole, and try to crash the system of its own weight?

One thing is for certain, they will NOT allow us to live our lives as we see fit, they will NOT leave us alone. Michelle already stated so.


77 posted on 10/17/2008 9:02:29 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: mwl8787

I’ve told my employees (health care workers) that if Obama wins, there will be across the board wage cuts or 20% lay-offs...the combination of tax increases and reduced reimbursements and increase in governmental regulations will render our current business model non-viable!
And believe it or not - quite a few are Obama-heads! Go figure??


78 posted on 10/17/2008 9:08:16 AM PDT by Froggie
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To: LS
I agree....the 'polls' are always euphoric when the Dihms are 'leading', but each election when the Dihms are ahead, the MSM is surprised and confused when their guy loses.

I was making light of the popular view here of the socialist nature of Obama, but I do think the radical left wing of the Dems will try to roll him for just about anything, The Fairness Doctrine, and a permanent Assault Weapons Ban come to mind as two goals of a Dem controlled Congress.

79 posted on 10/17/2008 9:10:07 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Palin has run a state, city, and a business. NObama has only run his mouth.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
It will be a shameful day for Conservatives in America. It would be good and right and just for Conservatives from around the world to laugh at you. And we will: we will laugh you to scorn and derision. So please don’t let that happen! That isn’t what we want to do!

Hey kiwi, you and every other so-called "conservative around the world" don't impress me with your own abilities to keep the socialists and tyrants at bay, so keep your laughs to yourself and kiss my American arse while your at it, 'k mate?

80 posted on 10/17/2008 9:12:58 AM PDT by workerbee (Sarah Palin's very existence is a threat to the Left.)
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