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Europe to U.S.: You messed up the rescue, too (BARF Alert)
www.cnnfn.com ^ | October 13, 2008 | Peter Gumbel

Posted on 10/13/2008 1:19:02 PM PDT by Pantera

PARIS (Fortune) -- First you mess up the world's financial system. Then you blow the rescue of it. Now let's show you how to do it properly.

That, in a nutshell, is the less-than-flattering message European governments are sending to the U.S. as they mount their own gigantic bank bailout. The plans, announced Monday after two weeks of dithering, involve Britain, Germany, France and some others recapitalizing national banks that require help, and providing state guarantees and other measures to kick-start the stalled credit market. The details are strikingly different from the U.S. approach adopted by U.S. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and the Federal Reserve Board. And there's a big reason for that: The Europeans think Paulson got it badly wrong, and have watched aghast as he failed to restore confidence in the world's financial system.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
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To: jersey117
>>You have to admit, Nancy Pelosi and her gang did mess things up.”

I don't get it....didn't the republicans with the president vote for this thing too?

Did I not see news that McCain voted “aye” on this bailout?

Come on, give credit where credit is due.

21 posted on 10/13/2008 2:15:06 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Pantera

Wait, europe is blaming the US for its troubles?

I am glad we have news organizations to report these unexpected gems of truth.


22 posted on 10/13/2008 2:15:34 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: Pantera
We'll see whose plan seems to work the best and hopefully learn from it. But the people responsible for messing up the world's economy are those who extended credit where they shouldn't and those who participated in unstable and unpredictable financial instruments. That isn't the fault of any one country.

There's a name for people who mix nationalism and banking. "Paupers."

23 posted on 10/13/2008 2:28:18 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: lonestar67
Wait, europe is blaming the US for its troubles?

Shouldn't they? It was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that spewed this noxious stew all around the planet, wasn't it? Maybe if Europe spoke up a little more about that, rather than complaining about the bailout, they would help with putting the blame for this entire thing where it belongs -- on the Democrats.

24 posted on 10/13/2008 2:56:52 PM PDT by EarlyBird (Don't listen to the socialist propaganda: McCain will win easily.)
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To: Heavyrunner

BTTT


25 posted on 10/13/2008 3:00:36 PM PDT by sciencefreeper
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To: austrian

Please list by country prior to this financial the guarantee level. Thank you.


26 posted on 10/13/2008 3:04:14 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: Heavyrunner

i could not agree more. it´s true that “europe” and the US have drifted apart since the foundation of the EU (this is btw. one of the “secret *lol*” goals of the EU). but i´m sick of anti americanism on this side of the world too. What is the US ? is it the forreign policy? (wich is not in EU interest?)btw. why should US policy fit european interests? the same way could be said the other way around. or is it the people?
like you i don´t care what people in the US say about EU policy (as long as they don’t actively interfere with us domestically.) but as you have said: There ARE conservative Eurpoeans out there... countries don´t have friends they have common interessts or not (and it looks like “europe” and the US have lost many “ but not all” of them). only people have friends. and for me in personal i have no problems meeting americans. i liked most americans i have
met in personal.and this is what cracks me up reading comments on message boards like euro scum...., american idiots... (while we disagree on many facts in world politics we should think twice “do we hate each other only because our media tells us?) what is europe on the other side? a single politician who may think he will gain some votes because he hits the anti american crowd? we share some basic lifestyle. of corse we disagree some times but why to hell is all this hate?. we can learn from each other. is every solution bad because it comes from america? NO. is every solution bad only because it comes from europe? NO.
greets


27 posted on 10/13/2008 3:16:34 PM PDT by austrian
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To: jersey117
McCain should state that this is a direct failure of Pelosi and the Banking Committee Chairs.

McCain can't say anything. He voted for it also despite abot 90% of the American people being opposed. If he had voted against it like we all told him he would be winning now.
28 posted on 10/13/2008 3:16:54 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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Switzerland’s Green Power Revolution: Ethicists Ponder Plants’ Rights
The Wall Street Journal | October 10, 2008 | Gautam Naik
Posted on 10/10/2008 1:17:28 PM PDT by SuperSonic
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2102568/posts

“For years, Swiss scientists have blithely created genetically modified rice, corn and apples. But did they ever stop to consider just how humiliating such experiments may be to plants?”

Palin on the economy in first print interview
Pittsburgh Tribune Review | Salena Zito
Posted on 10/12/2008 6:55:59 PM PDT by Salena Zito
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2104167/posts


29 posted on 10/13/2008 3:19:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: austrian
No, after posting on nearly 16,000 threads on Free Republic... I was just giving back what I have read about my Country, my Religion and my President in the European press. I remember chirac and schroder and company viciously attacking my country for years. de villipan and others come to mind. I have many European Friends but I know that most of Europe hates us.

One thing... without us...

LLS

30 posted on 10/13/2008 3:23:58 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: Chgogal

Please list by country prior to this financial the guarantee level. Thank you.


sorry but it´s impossible (at least for me) to get an exact list of european countries (valid source) and their guarantee levels prior to this. there for i would have to speak several languages to find sources. the 20.000 - 100.000 euros i was talking about was said in the tv news covering only the “main” EU countries (but not all).
i´m sorry but i can´t help on this one.


31 posted on 10/13/2008 3:41:37 PM PDT by austrian
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To: LibLieSlayer

No, after posting on nearly 16,000 threads on Free Republic... I was just giving back what I have read about my Country, my Religion and my President in the European press. I remember chirac and schroder and company viciously attacking my country for years. de villipan and others come to mind. I have many European Friends but I know that most of Europe hates us....


no you have to differ. most of europeans hate the forreign policy of your country (and bush in personal, this is really a no go in europe because he represents all “we” hate in american policy). but why should we love it? US policy doesn not have to fit EU policy for example. every one is looking for its own interests. but american people in generall? NO. why should we?


32 posted on 10/13/2008 3:55:55 PM PDT by austrian
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To: EarlyBird

No one forced the Europeans to buy these securities.

Its absurd. They hate us when we are prosperous and they hate us when we are in the tank.

European statists are worthless.


33 posted on 10/13/2008 4:09:53 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: Pantera

Ping


34 posted on 10/13/2008 4:26:15 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Pantera
Terrible journalism. E.g. factual errors: Not Peer Steinbrueck, but rather Frank-Walter Steinmeier will challenge Merkel for chancellor next year.
35 posted on 10/13/2008 4:26:19 PM PDT by wolf78
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To: LibLieSlayer

i have to add one important fact. there is a difference in the response you will get. if you post stuff like “we saved your ass in WWII” so shut up or be grateful because of that. or you will post stuff like america is responsible for “european” safety you will get comments like pi$$ off
on european message boards. that´s true. this is because no one here thinks this way any longer.but on this message board european tend to be more diplomatic. but this doesn´t mean that europeans hate every single american. we only think you are wrong having this kind of view. (because we don´t feel this way). but you should not get the impression that every one from europe thinks that we hate americans all the way. every country has its percentage off
idiots. there is no difference between Europe and america in this way. and illiterate persons tend to flock local message boards so don´t be suprised if answers are extreme annoying


36 posted on 10/13/2008 4:29:15 PM PDT by austrian
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To: Pantera; austrian
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,583742,00.html

“The 43-year-old wanted to withdraw 500,000 Icelandic krona — a sum worth about €4,000 just 2 months ago — from her private savings account and another $60,000 from her dollar account. “I want to take my money home,” she says. “I don't believe a single word the government is telling us anymore. We just get false information.”

37 posted on 10/13/2008 5:34:25 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: Pantera

Hey Europe,

Why don’t you just give us back the 670 BLN we inject into your markets in the past week.

Yeah, I didn’t think so.


38 posted on 10/13/2008 7:16:00 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Drill Baby, Drill)
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To: LibLieSlayer

You will even get a millionairs salery at the end of next year !

I just envy you guys.


39 posted on 10/14/2008 8:45:02 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there are people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: lonestar67

Are you talking about abs ?

Noone had to - they were tripple A rated and by all rights and laws of the US called americas finest investments.

It was not a hold up - you are right.

it was fraud.


40 posted on 10/14/2008 8:49:40 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there are people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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