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9 PM Eastern: St. Louis Vice Presidential Debate Live Thread
c-span.org ^ | October 2, 2008

Posted on 10/02/2008 1:48:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Okay, folks. Let's keep an eye on this debate and see if Sarah can beat down hairplug.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008debates; 2008veep; biden; debates; election; electionpresident; elections; gaffemachine; jumpingthegun; mccainpalin; palin; palinattacks; palinping; palinpraise; sarahpalin; vpdebate; whenbidenspeakszz; whenbidenspeakszzzz
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To: Baynative

I agree with you.


81 posted on 10/02/2008 2:37:01 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Illic Est Haud Deus)
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Palin’s Moment by Mark Goldblatt http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NmQ0ZWNjMDI4N2JhNDUyYzM2NjUxYWQwZmEzNDYxMzg=


82 posted on 10/02/2008 2:37:08 PM PDT by anglian ( If BS could fill an empty stomach, democrats could feed the world)
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To: Danette

Because Missouri is pretty safe for McCain.

If it makes you feel better, I see tons of McCain ads on the KC channels.


83 posted on 10/02/2008 2:38:08 PM PDT by KansasGirl (READ MY LIPSTICK!!!)
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To: llevrok

I smell something in the wind too ..... Obama (Mr. Clean & Articulate) not passing the ‘smell test’(politically & personally)!!


84 posted on 10/02/2008 2:39:37 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (God will be the ultimate judge ............ but sometimes you can just smell the sulfur.)
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To: Quix; All

Prayers up.


85 posted on 10/02/2008 2:39:45 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Fannie + Freddie = Democrat Cronies [Dodd and Obama -- the LegisLOOTers])
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To: doug from upland

EXACTLY!!


86 posted on 10/02/2008 2:39:47 PM PDT by cleveland gop (The RyderCup, back where it belongs! Way to go BOYS!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am so hoping that Sarah knocks it out of the park.

But I am too nervous to watch.

I’ll check back here later and try to see how it is going, that will let me know if I should tear the TV from the wall, unplug the internet and prepare for an Obama win.


87 posted on 10/02/2008 2:40:08 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: retrokitten
I have Oreos and pinwheel cookies at home to comfort me. ;-) That 60 pounds I lost is going to be 40 by the time the election comes. LOL

Damn, girl! Great job! Don't let the ignoramusi of the left ruin all your hard work — go peel some carrots and celery before the debate! Set out a big bowl of them with one tablespoon of light ranch dressing on the side for dipping.

88 posted on 10/02/2008 2:41:28 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The Word of God is powerful. That's why so many people are afraid to read it.)
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To: CatOwner
7:30pm (ET) => Analysis and viewer calls
9:00pm (ET) => VP Debate begins

An hour and a half of left-wing propaganda to kick off the debate, no doubt followed by an hour and a half of left-wing analysis?

89 posted on 10/02/2008 2:41:42 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ZX12R

Maybe Governor Palin can pull out Nickelsen’s line from A Few Good Men: “Senator Biden, you may call me GOVERNOR as I’ve earned that title.”


90 posted on 10/02/2008 2:41:54 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let us pray the GOP was joking about Sarah “getting tough”...on BIDEN! Surely they can’t be that stupid. Then again this is the same campaign which came up with the “suspension”, so who knows just how stupid they can be.


91 posted on 10/02/2008 2:42:54 PM PDT by montag813
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To: ZX12R

Probably “sweetie pie,” “baby doll,” or “hot stuff,” knowing him.


92 posted on 10/02/2008 2:43:47 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Cecily

I thought about doing that but if I’m drunk 1.5 minutes into the debate as a result...well...........


93 posted on 10/02/2008 2:44:29 PM PDT by molly_jack2007 (Obama suffers from Sarahnoia!!!!)
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To: advertising guy
I'll bet you're right. I totally expect Ifill to turn the "debate" into a one-sided gotcha game.

This campaign is one for the poli-sci books for sure; I don't know of any election in which so much turned on a VP debate. From where I sit, tonight will either mark the beginning of a new tack in the McCain-Palin campaign (i.e. actually getting back into the game aggressively) or it will signal one more month of blending into the wallpaper as they have been doing for the past week. I've been saying for a long, long time that McCain's game has been to keep his powder dry.

If they don't break out the powder tonight, I'll know we're in for a rough 8 years.

94 posted on 10/02/2008 2:45:30 PM PDT by manapua
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To: Albion Wilde

Thank you! Oh they won’t derail me. For some reason, I’m actually not a big sweets eater. I can control myself with cookies.

OTOH, I do not keep salty snacks in the house. Chips, pretzels, or anything resembling them (like crackers) I do not keep in the house at all.


95 posted on 10/02/2008 2:46:36 PM PDT by retrokitten (I love lamp)
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To: KansasGirl

I’m glad he’s safe here. I’m down in Springfield area (very conservative).


96 posted on 10/02/2008 2:46:41 PM PDT by Danette ("If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Cecily
Probably “sweetie pie,” “baby doll,” or “hot stuff,” knowing him.

I can only wish for a slip like that. Sarah would go thermonuclear on him.
97 posted on 10/02/2008 2:47:20 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: advertising guy
And, oh isn't it interesting that the infamous book in question as of this date is not done? I suspect the remainder of the book will begin at the conclusion of the debate tonight and end on November 5. This country and the accomplices in the media should be ashamed of the bias and partiality. We do not deserve to get what we might be given....
98 posted on 10/02/2008 2:50:36 PM PDT by Born In America (Affirmative action is no way to elect a President, now or ever....)
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To: cdga5for4
Glenn had General Stockdale’s son

Do you mean the late Admiral Stockdale, or is there a General Stockdale who is (presumably) a totally different guy?

99 posted on 10/02/2008 2:51:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I always expect the worst from the RATS and they always deliver." ~ rrrod)
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To: Danette
I wish we all had the faith of Elijah!! He put OZERO cronies in place...You don't believe me, read on!

15 Elijah said, "As surely as God-of-the-Angel-Armies lives, and before whom I take my stand, I'll meet with your master face-to-face this very day." 16 So Obadiah went straight to Ahab and told him. And Ahab went out to meet Elijah. 17-19 The moment Ahab saw Elijah he said, "So it's you, old troublemaker!" "It's not I who has caused trouble in Israel," said Elijah, "but you and your government—you've dumped God's ways and commands and run off after the local gods, the Baals. Here's what I want you to do: Assemble everyone in Israel at Mount Carmel. And make sure that the special pets of Jezebel, the four hundred and fifty prophets of the local gods, the Baals, and the four hundred prophets of the whore goddess Asherah, are there." 20 So Ahab summoned everyone in Israel, particularly the prophets, to Mount Carmel. 21 Elijah challenged the people: "How long are you going to sit on the fence? If God is the real God, follow him; if it's Baal, follow him. Make up your minds!" Nobody said a word; nobody made a move. 22-24 Then Elijah said, "I'm the only prophet of God left in Israel; and there are 450 prophets of Baal. Let the Baal prophets bring up two oxen; let them pick one, butcher it, and lay it out on an altar on firewood—but don't ignite it. I'll take the other ox, cut it up, and lay it on the wood. But neither will I light the fire. Then you pray to your gods and I'll pray to God. The god who answers with fire will prove to be, in fact, God." All the people agreed: "A good plan—do it!" 25 Elijah told the Baal prophets, "Choose your ox and prepare it. You go first, you're the majority. Then pray to your god, but don't light the fire." 26 So they took the ox he had given them, prepared it for the altar, then prayed to Baal. They prayed all morning long, "O Baal, answer us!" But nothing happened—not so much as a whisper of breeze. Desperate, they jumped and stomped on the altar they had made. 27-28 By noon, Elijah had started making fun of them, taunting, "Call a little louder—he is a god, after all. Maybe he's off meditating somewhere or other, or maybe he's gotten involved in a project, or maybe he's on vacation. You don't suppose he's overslept, do you, and needs to be waked up?" They prayed louder and louder, cutting themselves with swords and knives—a ritual common to them—until they were covered with blood. 29 This went on until well past noon. They used every religious trick and strategy they knew to make something happen on the altar, but nothing happened—not so much as a whisper, not a flicker of response. 30-35 Then Elijah told the people, "Enough of that—it's my turn. Gather around." And they gathered. He then put the altar back together for by now it was in ruins. Elijah took twelve stones, one for each of the tribes of Jacob, the same Jacob to whom God had said, "From now on your name is Israel." He built the stones into the altar in honor of God. Then Elijah dug a fairly wide trench around the altar. He laid firewood on the altar, cut up the ox, put it on the wood, and said, "Fill four buckets with water and drench both the ox and the firewood." Then he said, "Do it again," and they did it. Then he said, "Do it a third time," and they did it a third time. The altar was drenched and the trench was filled with water. 36-37 When it was time for the sacrifice to be offered, Elijah the prophet came up and prayed, "O God, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, make it known right now that you are God in Israel, that I am your servant, and that I'm doing what I'm doing under your orders. Answer me, God; O answer me and reveal to this people that you are God, the true God, and that you are giving these people another chance at repentance." 38 Immediately the fire of God fell and burned up the offering, the wood, the stones, the dirt, and even the water in the trench. 39 All the people saw it happen and fell on their faces in awed worship, exclaiming, "God is the true God! God is the true God!" 40 Elijah told them, "Grab the Baal prophets! Don't let one get away!" They grabbed them. Elijah had them taken down to the Brook Kishon and they massacred the lot. 41 Elijah said to Ahab, "Up on your feet! Eat and drink—celebrate! Rain is on the way; I hear it coming."

**this is my favorite verse because it reminds me of how some NAYSAYERS here have little faith that a VICTORY can be achieved through prayer

42-43 Ahab did it: got up and ate and drank. Meanwhile, Elijah climbed to the top of Carmel, bowed deeply in prayer, his face between his knees. Then he said to his young servant, "On your feet now! Look toward the sea." He went, looked, and reported back, "I don't see a thing." "Keep looking," said Elijah, "seven times if necessary." 44 And sure enough, the seventh time he said, "Oh yes, a cloud! But very small, no bigger than someone's hand, rising out of the sea." "Quickly then, on your way. Tell Ahab, 'Saddle up and get down from the mountain before the rain stops you.'" 45-46 Things happened fast. The sky grew black with wind-driven clouds, and then a huge cloudburst of rain, with Ahab hightailing it in his chariot for Jezreel. And God strengthened Elijah mightily. Pulling up his robe and tying it around his waist, Elijah ran in front of Ahab's chariot until they reached Jezreel.

100 posted on 10/02/2008 2:52:51 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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