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'SNL' Palin 'Incest' Skit Angers Viewers - Viewers, Bloggers Think Skit Went Over Line
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Posted on 09/22/2008 9:56:46 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

'SNL' Palin 'Incest' Skit Angers Viewers Viewers, Bloggers Think Skit Went Over Line

POSTED: 11:30 am EDT September 22, 2008 UPDATED: 12:14 pm EDT September 22, 2008 For the second week in a row, NBC's "Saturday Night Live" has taken to lampooning Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin -- but this time, it has angered conservative viewers over a skit that suggests that the Alaska governor's husband, Todd Palin, was having sex with the couple's daughters.

In the skit, show guest host James Franco plays an assignment editor at the New York Times at the head of an editorial meeting. During a mock assignment meeting where the paper announced that 50 reporters were being sent to look for dirt on Sarah Palin, a Times "reporter" asks, "What about the husband? You know he's doing those daughters. I mean, come on. It's Alaska."

In response, Franco's character said, "He very well could be. Admittedly, there is no evidence of that, but on the other hand, there is no convincing evidence to the contrary. And these are just some of the lingering questions about Gov. Palin."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: alfranken; comedy; culturewar; democrats; elections; hystericalmedia; jamesfranco; liberalmedia; mccainpalin; nbc; nytimes; palin; palinattacks; pds; propagandawingofdnc; satire; smearcampaign; snl
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To: HamiltonJay
And what exactly went to far?

Joking about Todd Palin having relations with his daughter. It's crude. Sometimes the end doesn't justify the means. This is one of those times. It's called having a conscious. I don't laugh about the allegation of a girl being abused (the means) even if I agree the NYT or Daily Kos have gone too far in their allegations about Palin and her family(the end). That's just me.
101 posted on 09/22/2008 11:35:45 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: HamiltonJay

HJ there was another thread on this skit yesterday (its up to about 400 posts now). I spent my FReeptime trying to explain the very same point (that the SNL bullseye was firmly planted in the assignment room of the NYTimes). I think there were 6 or 7 who ‘got it.’ Good luck to you today....many a thin skinned FReepers who have no sense of irony...

PaMom


102 posted on 09/22/2008 11:36:55 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (SarahNoid/SarahPhobia, the Irrational Fear of a Strong, Conservative Woman.)
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To: Schnucki

You sound like you actually saw the same skit that I did...


103 posted on 09/22/2008 11:39:27 AM PDT by Checkers (Voting for McCain? Then don't complain. (Hey, that rhymes.))
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To: Hatteras

I sure didn’t. Eddie Murphy & Dana Carvey still on there? How about Jane Curtin?


104 posted on 09/22/2008 11:39:44 AM PDT by wordsofearnest ("The fundamental solution (w/b) that there is no longer any need to immigrate")
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To: All

No matter what SNL does, there are always people here that will defend them and their intent and state we’re just missing the point.

Whatever.

I have a fairly good sense of humor and didn’t go off a cliff last week over the Fey skit but this was simply not funny. If the intent of the skit was really to lampoon the Times and liberal media it failed miserably because everyone is too disgusted by the suggestion of incest to even be so “enlightened” to the satire. Following on the heels of all the other attacks people have seen against Sarah, this is only repulsing people and no one is going to believe no harm was meant.

I’m sorry. But some things are not funny and not worth defending. Not even in the name of comedy. Comedy, after all, is supposed to make people laugh. No one’s laughing.


105 posted on 09/22/2008 11:40:39 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Yep, sadly, you are far too correct.. and far too many are willing to weigh in, let alone regurgitate what someone else who admits they haven’t even seen it, have weighed in on it.


106 posted on 09/22/2008 11:42:37 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Girlene
-there are a significant number of women who were abused as young girls.......this is another one of those issues best left alone. Much like the Down’s Syndrome baby. It was crude and pointless. The only purpose was to slam the Palins....as that is what happened and all anyone will remember — “those Alaskans......not like us, did you hear? Incest. Psst, pass it on....” — I doubt the charge will stick against the NYTimes at all. It should, but it won't. I just don't watch that tripe.
107 posted on 09/22/2008 11:43:05 AM PDT by tioga (Bring on the debates! While Obama wows the media, McCain will win over Americans.)
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To: HamiltonJay
but hey, don’t worry about thinking for yourself, I’m sure Rush will tell you what to think about something he’s admitted he hasn’t seen as well, and you’ll be more than willing to swallow it.

LOL. Thanks! Why the beef with Rush? When did I mention Rush? I'll spell it out....I don't think jokes about incest are funny. Jokes about incest must not bother you. Fine.
108 posted on 09/22/2008 11:44:39 AM PDT by Girlene (Rush is one of my top ten favorite male names)
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To: Sir_Ed

Me neither.


109 posted on 09/22/2008 11:45:00 AM PDT by Checkers (Voting for McCain? Then don't complain. (Hey, that rhymes.))
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t disagree with your point but with comedy I am not sure that your point is not incorporated within the skit.

SNL has commented on how Obama gets a double standard.

I would draw everyone’s attention to a skit done the previous week during the news segment featuring a typical Alaskan. It had similar inuendoes directed at Alaska. I think that sketch failed for reasons noted by those angry here.

It is possible that the reaction to that flawed skit lead to a critique of those assumptions.

Again, this is wild speculation and difficult to verify. But here again, I think conservatives need to become more creative in interpreting and controlling the comic frame. If we spin it in our favor that is fine.

I think we could say to our water cooler pals all of the things noted here— including the ‘they’d never say that about Obama’ as part of our reaction. That solidified more arguments against Obama and leaves us not looking like whiners.

That is why Southpark is so much bette than SNL. Southpark attacks all sides equally.


110 posted on 09/22/2008 11:46:14 AM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: HamiltonJay
For God’s sake folks, this skit is a rip on the MEDIA!!! And how rediculous they are behaving!!! For once SNL’s taking a shot at the liberal media!!! Sheesh.

I really believe they used taking a shot at the media as a cover for putting that disgusting idea out there.

111 posted on 09/22/2008 11:48:11 AM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: HamiltonJay
Whether you laugh at a skit or not is irrellevant, there is no way you can watch this skit and view it as an attack on the Palin’s or Rural america unless your eyes are so clouded with partisan idiocy that you can’t see the truth.

But it is very relevant. The essence of mockery is humor, and there is a big difference between humor and flippancy. You laugh warmly with the first. You despise coldly with the second. And the object of the derision in this case in not the NYT, but rather the Palins.

You yourself are calling people who disagree with you idiots. That is an ad hominem argument against your oppenents as people, not an argument against their ideas.

112 posted on 09/22/2008 11:49:56 AM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer .)
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To: Girlene

Whether one found the skit funny or not was what this discussion has been about. The discussion has been about folks claiming that the point of the skit was attacks on the Palin family, and claiming outrage over it which it clearly was not.


113 posted on 09/22/2008 11:50:44 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Ciexyz

“The network should have the cojones to fire whoever was responsible for this travesty. Or better yet, put the show on hiatus for “review” and “development”.”

You are right. NBC should fire SNL writers who dared to make fun of The New York Times. /heavy sarcasm

Sheesh!


114 posted on 09/22/2008 11:50:44 AM PDT by Checkers (Voting for McCain? Then don't complain. (Hey, that rhymes.))
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To: HamiltonJay

This is like the flipside of the Obama/New Yorker controversy.


115 posted on 09/22/2008 11:51:19 AM PDT by murdoog (http://babydoc3.livejournal.com)
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To: 1Old Pro

“NOPE, as RUSh accurately said, it’s a “clever” way to attack Palin while “claiming” it was an attack on the media.”

Rush also said he hadn’t seen the skit in question.


116 posted on 09/22/2008 11:53:31 AM PDT by Checkers (Voting for McCain? Then don't complain. (Hey, that rhymes.))
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To: murdoog

Good analogy.


117 posted on 09/22/2008 11:54:40 AM PDT by Checkers (Voting for McCain? Then don't complain. (Hey, that rhymes.))
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To: Ciexyz

“Well, if you think the skit is just a satire on the liberal media, let’s redo the damn skit next week with OBAMA as the focus. As in, “Gee, he must be doing his daughters. You know how it is among THOSE families.”

See? That sounds mighty offensive to me.

Remember, the audience was tittering away at the idea of those rubes in Alaska doing their daughters. That poor white trash up North - always good for a cheap laugh among the young hip NYC audience.”

Did you see the skit?


118 posted on 09/22/2008 11:56:02 AM PDT by Checkers (Voting for McCain? Then don't complain. (Hey, that rhymes.))
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To: tioga
-there are a significant number of women who were abused as young girls.......this is another one of those issues best left alone. Much like the Down’s Syndrome baby. It was crude and pointless.

I think most comedians DO leave this issue alone. Palin's daughter, Bristol, has had so many allegations planted out there across the internet. Now, SNL, uses her in a skit to supposedly make fun of the ridiculousness of these allegations. But Bristol is still the means of the joke.
119 posted on 09/22/2008 11:56:25 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: agooga

Did you see the skit?


120 posted on 09/22/2008 11:57:00 AM PDT by Checkers (Voting for McCain? Then don't complain. (Hey, that rhymes.))
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