Posted on 09/20/2008 11:18:25 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
(snip) It's only a point, but again we see McCain's numbers in this group went up.
So, put it all together, and in the past week Obama has stayed steady or lost support in every party identification group, yet Gallup says his overall support went up four points. And McCain stayed steady or went up in every party identification group, yet we are supposed to accept the claim that his overall support went down by four points? Anyone have an answer for how that is even possible?
Well, actually I do. There is one, and only one, possible way that such a thing can happen mathematically. And that way, is that Gallup made major changes to the political affiliation weighting from the last week to now. Gallup has significantly increased the proportional weight of Democrat response and reduced the weight of Republican response. (snip>
(Excerpt) Read more at wizbangblog.com ...
Cheers!
Rasmussen also shows Obama up a bit.
We have to keep working on this election. It’s going to be tight right up to the election.
I’m tired of hearing how this is going to be a landslide for us.
The “Bradley effect” ?
I had much rather McCain be 5pct down today. Its along time to Nov 4 and to much at stake for us to get lazy or over confident right now.
McCain should hammer BHO relentlessly on his in ability to release a proposal for fixing the largest financial disaster in my life time.
It wont work.
This is also the case with the major media. If they announce an early fait accompli for either candidate, their ad buys are going to drop precipitously.
Follow the money. Always. Wisest advice ever.
I can only laugh and say: “Dirty F-’s!!”
Of course they would do this, 0bama does inspire “hope”.
I think it all goes back to money. The Polls are paid for by the MSM. If the polls are cooked to keep it a horse race then people will tune in to the MSM and generate ratings and sponsor dollars (when is sweeps week?). If it’s a blow out (in the polling) the revenue shrinks because no gives a flying f**K what the MSM says about a blowout.
ping
Long, but interesting.
The only one i’ve seen who gives actual numbers is Survey USA and they are way off usually.
A target sample is just that, a target, they may want 36% dem and 31% repub sample but if all they get after they call is 40% Dem and 25% Repub sample, then thats what they use.
It all depends on the randomness. target is just that a target.
Obama has a definite shot at winning the election. Do all you can now, and be prepared for the worst.
Has anyone tried to get a handle on any type of Wilder/Bradley factor within the polling. It may not exist but if it does, to what magnitude is it or can it even be mesaured? How far off was the primary polling in comparison to the actual primary vote for Obama? All I can cite is the New Hampshire upset.
after all Rass and Gallup only say their targets, they never actually say what thier real figure or if they are over or under target, so you cannot tell.
“We have to keep working on this election. Its going to be tight right up to the election. Im tired of hearing how this is going to be a landslide for us.”
Agreed, because if Obama is announced the winner election night by a narrow margin, all of us here should look at ourselves and ask...
Did I do everything I could to have prevented it?
in the primaries Obama basically overpolled around 4 to 5 %, sometimes more.
California was 10% off in the primary, and thats were Bradley had his huge loss? So you never know.
Well I am not going to throw the consipracy allegation out there yet, but there is definately something off on these national polls.. You can't keep showing Fauxbama losing support across EVERY demographic, yet show him gaining, just doesn't add up. I think there is something that is not being captured in these national polls, I'd really love to see the internal DNC and RNC polling... because there is NO WAY IN HELL either of them is showing Fauxbama up 5, that's beyond any sort of credibility. They clearly are not jiving with the state polling, or what's going on on the ground.. some somethings off for sure in them.
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It's all about ratings and the advertising dollars that come with the ratings.
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